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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby Luís » 2020-02-13, 13:48

Damn Celtic languages.

Now I'm wanderlusting for them all (yes, Breton, I'm looking at you too)
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-13, 16:36

Luís wrote:Now I'm wanderlusting for them all

Even Manx?
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby kevin » 2020-02-13, 23:02

S'mie lhiam Gaelg, agh cha nel ee aym. :?:

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby Luís » 2020-02-14, 11:39

linguoboy wrote:
Luís wrote:Now I'm wanderlusting for them all

Even Manx?


No, only the ones that still have native speakers... :P
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby kevin » 2020-02-14, 12:46

But Manx has native speakers!

Not still, but again, but let's ignore such details...

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby Saim » 2020-02-14, 13:15

I guess I’m a native speaker of Serbian then...

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-14, 22:17

I just checked and it seems my library has the Doyle. I've been leafing through it and it seems pretty sound--not as comprehensive overall in its coverage as Ó Siadhail's Modern Irish (particularly regarding phonology and dialectal variation) but with a robust section on syntax. (I'm particularly intrigued by his suggestion that Irish is actually default SVO on the basis of its small clauses with surface VSO being the result of fronting the finite verb--have to read more on that.) I'll have to make some time to sit down and read through the whole thing.
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby Torch » 2020-02-18, 15:35

European Portuguese And Lingala.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby vijayjohn » 2020-03-30, 2:57

linguoboy wrote:Ó Siadhail's Speaking Irish still has a lot to recommend it but also a fair bit that makes it hard to use. He teaches one particular dialect, which he speaks natively, and respells some--but not all!--words to match. His phonemic transcriptions are a bit hard to make sense of unless you've read his Modern Irish (which I highly recommend).

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby linguoboy » 2020-03-30, 15:16

vijayjohn wrote:
linguoboy wrote:Ó Siadhail's Speaking Irish still has a lot to recommend it but also a fair bit that makes it hard to use. He teaches one particular dialect, which he speaks natively, and respells some--but not all!--words to match. His phonemic transcriptions are a bit hard to make sense of unless you've read his Modern Irish (which I highly recommend).

:shock:

You can contrast this approach to, say, Dillon and Ó Cróinín, who also teach a particular dialect in TYI but adopt CO spellings throughout, meaning you have to remember that, for instance, amárach is pronounced amáireach or that deirfiúr is driofúr. Obviously, there are good and bad points to each approach.
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby vijayjohn » 2020-04-01, 14:21

When you wrote "Speaking Irish," didn't you mean "Learning Irish"?

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby linguoboy » 2020-04-01, 15:20

vijayjohn wrote:When you wrote "Speaking Irish," didn't you mean "Learning Irish"?

Probably. Speaking Irish is the name of a DVD with accompanying text I own. (Highly recommended, btw.)
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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby vijayjohn » 2020-04-04, 19:51

Oh okay, I don't think I've heard of it. I thought I'd heard of Modern Irish before but maybe not.

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Re: Wanderlust support group 5

Postby Vlürch » 2020-04-06, 19:22

Tangut again, because I can't focus on Japanese or Turkish and instead gravitate towards completely useless extinct languages that few things are certain about... so instead of putting my time and effort into learning more actually useful Japanese or Turkish words, I'm memorising random Tangut words. Image

On the other hand, I'm also wanderlusting Korean again and think I've learned to recognise a couple more hangul components. So, it's not like I'm only wasting my time... but realistically speaking I'll never be able to learn as much Korean as Japanese, so it's still kind of a waste of time even if it isn't. I don't really even have fluency as a goal in any language, though, it's more about the journey of learning or whatever.


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