New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

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New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby arpee » 2010-04-09, 7:43

This is the new Bon Wen and it's named Puna Pala. Bon Wen doesn't have a word to make a word an opposite but this language does. There are 95 words and if this language is to expand, I don't want it to go beyond 100 words. The words been selected from a list of 100 most essential words for traveling.

Phonology
8 Letters (5 consonants, 3 vowels)

a - a/schwa
i - i/e
k - k/g/h
l - l/r
n - n/m
p - p/b/f/v
t - t/d/s
u - u/o

Adverb/Time-Subject-Verb-Object
Foreign names are treated as adjectives
Foreign names can not start with vowels so an 'L' is put in fron
Foreign names are written in these phonetics
No consonant/vowel clusters
No consonant finals
No vowel initial words
Words can act as any parts of speech (noun, adjective, verb, etc.)
No word is larger than two syllables (except foreign names)


Dictionary
good, easy, simple, peace, cure, fix, heal, hello/bye: puna
What, which, question particle: na
I, me, my: niki
you, your: kini
she, he, his, her, its, it: li
opposition, opposite, reverse, anti-: ni
male, man: nani
female, woman, lady: nina
child, baby, offspring: pata
help, support, assistance: taki
person, human: kata
animal, life (other than human): taka
polite word (please, thank you, sorry, your welcome): pi
zero, not, none, empty: nu
one, alone, solo, only, marry, marriage: lu
two, double: tu
number, digit: la
all, each, every, universal, universe: tuti
many, Much, more, again, Very, great, major, majority, important: mata
day (24 hours), star, sun: tila
month, moon, satellite: lati
year, cycle, circle, wheel: lani
time, hour, o'clock, season, weather, period, moment: tipu
minute: ninu
present, now, modern: nuni
future, will (do): putu
past, did (do): tupu
communication, language, mouth: pala
group, network: kupi
device, tool, computer, thing used for a specific thing: tuli
release, hand, put, give, emit: tuna
place, area, location: luka
food, teeth, drink, consumable thing, consume, eat, drink: kuni
need, want: nila
sleep, relax, loosen, dream: luni
celebrate, amuse, fun, worship, praise: puni
make, do, act, active, on, create, deed: kana
air, wind, gas, smeel, breate, nose: nali
hot, heat, fire: puka
currency, cash, money, trading thing: tulu
thing, substance, stuff: puki
shop, market, store, trade, profession, business, job: lapu
grains (cereal, bread, potato, pasta, rice, noodle): pani
meat, protein, body, shape, form, figure: puti
diary (milk, cheese, etc.): laku
nut, egg, start, beginning, root, seed, penis, vagina, bean: pina
vegetable, fruit: pana
salt, sodium: tati
sweet, sugar: tuka
water, liquid: laka
tea, leaf, plant, grass, hair: ti
seek, identify, identity, identification, recognize: kunu
validation, valid, proof, prove, confirm, evidence, testimony: pali
message, information, news: nati
out, outside, from, of, foreign, skin, shell, peel, bark: pilu
travel, move, feet: tata
ground, Earth, planet, land, dirt: panu
up, formal, sky, spiritual, religious, superior: tupa
fast, speed, quick, hurry, rush: pita
ticket, paper, nota, card: nuta
life, live, health, experience: tani
keep, to book, to reserve, maintain, hold, carry, have: kipu
right side: lata
forward, straight, ahead, front, chest, stomach: lapa
this: tina
inscribe, draw, write, shape, form, figure: kipa
there is, there are, exist, be, real, true, yes, correct: ta
eye, see, view, watch, read: luku
cause (since, when...): paki
effect, event (then, thus, therefore, so, because): tuta
problem, task, issue (but, however): tinu
know, knowledge, science, logic: luki
feel, sense, touch, emotion, heart: kula
connection (and, plus, also, with), like, join, connect, attach: liki
different, or, other, edit, modify, change: kapi
new, fresh, young: nilu
big, huge: puku
clean, wash, cleanse, pure, neat, organize: niti
sound, voice, ring, play (instrument): tanu
able, legal, allow, love, accept, enable, ability: lana
chance, possibility, maybe, if, perhaps, luck: laki
use, apply, utilize, employ: luta
mushroom, mold, bacteria, germ, fungus: nuki
solid, stone, metal, mineral, metal, rock, clay: nita
semi-solid, paste, cream, powder, gum, glue: kanu
color, paint: kala
light, white, bright, day-time: luti
taste, flavor, style, technique, mode, tongue: lika
lead, rule, control, steer, in charge, law: liti
line, long, string, rope, thread, chain, cord: lini
opening, orifice, hole, portal, window, door: pinu
word, name, title, concept, idea: nuna
sex, erotic, sexy, sexual: paku
part, pieace, element, particle, type, kind: pati
energy, power, strength, sure, strong, confident, inspire, energize, intense: kiki
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Compounds:
Puna Pala, simple language: puna pala
adult, parent: ni pata
God: tupa ni pata
destroy, hurt, harm, attack, pain: ni taka
impolite word (screw you!), swear word (damn it!): ni pi
receive, get, take, obtain: ni tuna
restaurant, pub: kuni luka
awake, aware, concious: ni luni
smoke: ni tuna nali
cold: ni puka
credit card: tulu puki
coffee, chocolate: pina laka
juice, soda: tuka laka
tea (drink): ti laka
passport, visa: kunu puki
in, at, to, on, toward, near, inside, interior, internal: ni pilu
bicycle, car, taxi: tata tuli
bus, train (on ground): kupi tata tuli
down, informal, inferior, humble:ni tupa
slow: ni pita
home, den, nest, apartment: tani luka
hostel: tipu tani luka
left: ni lata
back, behind, anus, butt: ni lapa
that: ni tina
here: tina luka
there: ni tina luka
ear, hear, listen: ni luku
think, believe, belief, brain, mind, head: ni kula
old: ni nilu
little, small: ni puku
dark, night, black: ni luti
metro, underground train: ni tupa kupi tata tuli
nausea, diarrhoea: tuna pilu nu puna
allergy, allergic to: ni puna ni pilu
tent: pilu tani luka
campsite: mata pilu tani luka
climb, jump: tata tupa
hill, mountain, crag: tupa panu
map: panu luka kipa
doctor: puti puna kata
hospital: puti puna luka
amphibian, frog, toad: panu laka taka
reptile, snake, serpent: panu tata taka
aquatic animal, fish, crab: laka taka
bad, sickness, virus, crazy, insane, evil, crime, spoil, rotten: ni puna
alcohol: ni puna laka
bar: ni puna laka luka
trash, dirt, waste, garbage, pollute, pollution: ni niti
same, copy, immitate: ni kapi
lose: ni kipu
music, melody: mata puna tanu
noise: ni puna tanu
yell: kupu tanu
tree, wood: kupu ti
way, path, road: tata luka
cloth, cover, fabric, material: puti puki
off: ni kana
closed, locked, secret, hidden, away, absent: ni pinu
wall: lapa puki
nation, country, state: kata kupi luka
city, town: kupu kata kupi luka
fear, hate, reject: ni lana
mistake, accident: nu nila ni puna
end, finish, tail: ni pina
box, container: kipu tuli
(video) game: puni tuli
pilu kata kupi luka nati kata kupi: embassy
cute, pretty, beautiful: puna luku
battle, war: ni taki tuta

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby conlanger5 » 2010-04-10, 19:11

Good work!
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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-11, 9:22

The reason why you think it sounds "cuter" and "softer" than the old Bon Wen is because Puna Pala uses "i" and "u" rather than "e" and "o", and instead of "b", there's a "p".

On the website of the old Bon Wen, you said that the letters were chosen "carefully".

I added an "s" to Bon Wen so that words are less UNrecognizable. Anyway, words often get altered when they go from one language to another.

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby arpee » 2010-04-11, 9:45

First off,
k2attack wrote:...I added an "s" to Bon Wen so that words are less UNrecognizable...


No you didn't. It's OK to make a new language based off of Bon Wen but don't go editing the language itself. That's an insult. It's like editing art work. Bon Wen is my little art work.


k2attack wrote:The reason why you think it sounds "cuter" and "softer" than the old Bon Wen is because Puna Pala uses "i" and "u" rather than "e" and "o", and instead of "b", there's a "p".

On the website of the old Bon Wen, you said that the letters were chosen "carefully".


Bon Wen was made back in a time where I taught the 3 most common vowels were "e", "o", and "a". It was in a time where I thought "b" was more common than "p". None of this is true which is why I changed it to the correct most common vowels which are "a", "i", and "u" and which is why I changed it to the real most common phoneme which is "p" NOT "b".

Also, there will be no more editing of the Bon Wen language or itself website. The language is now dead. It was created in my ignorance. The only reason the website still exist is because I am leaving it as sort of a Monument.

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-11, 21:33

What happened to Puna (the 18-word language, not Puna Pala)?

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby conlanger5 » 2010-04-11, 23:05

It had stopped receiving posts.
P.S. Did you see the new topic?
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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-12, 15:39

luku pilu niki luku kini luku.

Are there any words from existing languages even if they've been altered?

And I think the binary number system should be used: 0s and 1s

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-12, 19:43

I can trace the roots of many words:

nu - English: no
tu - English: two
ti - English: tea
tuli - English: tool
luta - English: utility
laki - English: lucky
kala - English: color
luku - look
pilu - peel
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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-12, 19:47

arpee wrote:future, will (do): putu
past, did (do): tupu


Reminds me of Universal (Esperantido), where opposites are made by switching the syllables.

Some more examples are nani and nina; niki and kini; and kata and taka. (kind of like opposites)

Actually this language is pretty good! Good job! This language is much better than the old Bon Wen. It's easier too! And it sounds softer and doesn't look like a wierd mutant language like the old Bon Wen.

Are there any words from Eastern languages?

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby arpee » 2010-04-12, 23:04

You can say that "kini" comes from the Japanese "kimi" but again, I made these words myself and they are just coincidences.

The language is very minimal but I also want the amount of syllables per word to be minimal. I'm trying to make each word as short as possible. Words like the Toki Pona "sitelen" are horrible. Imagine using that 3 syllable word in compounds. I will be changing some of the two syllable words into diphthongs.

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-13, 15:25

k2attack wrote:I can trace the roots of many words:

nu - English: no
tu - English: two
ti - English: tea
tuli - English: tool
luta - English: utility
laki - English: lucky
kala - English: color
luku - look
pilu - peel


These words don't look like co-incidences.

Not to mention "puna" from French "bon".

Are you going to make a video or a website about Puna Pala? Shall I make a website?

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-14, 19:31

On of Arpee's comments on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PjlcjN-4xQ:

There were many changes to Bon Wen.

For example, the vowels were simplified:

it's just

A - A, Schwa
I - I, E
U - O, U

and no more J/W since they both sound like I/U.

I'll update this language soon



So that's what happened to Bon Wen!

WAIT!!! The word for big is "puku", NOT 'kupu" as you put in some of the compounds.

And the word for "past/did (do)" should be "ni putu", since it's the opposite of future.
And "animal" should be "ni kata", meaning non-human.

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Re: New Bon Wen (Puna Pala)

Postby k2attack » 2010-04-24, 20:41

You seem to have forgetten all about it!


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