manca - one syllable per word language

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manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » 2009-11-07, 21:42

Phonology:

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24 letters - 19 consonants, 5 vowels, 190 syllables
a
b
c - ch
d
e
f
g
h
i
k
l
m
n
o
p
r
s
t
u
v
w
x - sh
y
z

* All names of places are borrowed from the name of it's original language
* All foreign words must have a manca word before and after it. for countries, "ca" must begin before and after


Here are the 190 words of the language (all of the syllables are used):

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b - body
ba - body, torso
be - heart, chest, lung, rib, feel (emotion)
bi - stomach, abdomen
bo - arm, wing
bu - hand, touch, feel (something physical)

bn - body
ban - waist, hip
ben - sexual organ (penis, vagina, testicles)
bin - butt, anus, buttock
bon - leg
bun - foot, stomp, step

c - language, people
ca - language
ce - write, draw, paint
ci - nation, country
co - letter, title, name, word
cu - culture, way of life, religion

cn - important verbs
can - want, need, desire, hope
cen - believe, think trust
cin - donate, give, send, emit, put
con - have, contain, hold, keep
cun - take, grab, get, obtain

d - locations
da - to, at, on, near
de - from, of, about, concerning, by (means of)
di - enter, in, inside, interior
do - exit, out, outside, exterior, foreign
du - far, distant, distance, away, hidden, secret (adjective)

dn - directions
dan - north, up
den - south, down
din - west, left
don - east, right
dun - middle, center

f - food pyramid
fa - bread, grain, cereal
fe - fruit, vegetable
fi - peanut, seed, nut, offspring, son or daughther
fo - milk, cheese, yogurt, dairy
fu - sugar, fat, oil

fn - business
fan - money, dollar, currency, wealth
fen - market, store
fin - buy
fon - sell
fun - save, help

g - shapes
ga - circle, shape with no side
ge - line, shape with one side
gi - angle, shape with two sides
go - triangle, shape with three sides
gu - square, shape with four sides

gn - life
gan - spirit, soul, spiritual
gen - human, person
gin - life, live, experience
gon - God, divine, holy sacred
gun - happen, event, effect, drama, news

h - family
ha - parent, parental
he - sibling (brother, sister)
hi - friend, ally
ho - family, home, nest, den, place of living
hu - city, town, village, area of living

hn - other
han - sex, fuck, eroctic, sexuality, sexual, sexy
hen - pause, stay, remain, permanent, stop, quit
hin - move, travel, go, transport, mobile
hon - sound, noise, voice, play (instrument), music
hun - dirt, filth, dirty, garbage, pollute, waste, fece, urine

k - parts of speech
ka - ask, request, what, which, question particle (if at the end of a sentence)
ke - because
ki - since, cause, reason, origin, genesis, start, begining, become
ko - but, however
ku - still, yet, only

kn - temperature
kan - temperature, cook, degree (Celsius)
ken - cold, cool, chill
kin - warm
kon - freeze, frozen
kun - burn, melt, hot

l - important
la - existance, being, a performer of a verb (if used as suffix)
le - thing, substance, object
li - place, area, location
lo - tool, device, machine, computer
lu - betray, rebel, against, opposite of word (if used as prefix)

ln - matter
lan - semisolid, paste, gum, powder
len - gas, air, wind, breeze
lin - liquid, water, sauce
lon - solid, rock, stone
lun - heavy, weigh

m - pronouns
ma - I, me
me - you, your
mi - he, she, it, his, her, its
mo - this
mu - that

mn - astrology
man - planet, world
men - outerspace, heaven, sky
min - star, sun
mon - astroid, meteor, any small heavenly body
mun - moon, satellite

n - quantities
na - none, zero, no, not
ne - few, little, bit
ni - some, plural
no - many, much, a lot, very
nu - all, every, each, universe, everything, universal

nn - clothing and accessories
nan - accessory, decoration, season (for food)
nen - cloth, cover (for a bed), fabric, wear (put on)
nin - shirt, coat, jacket, hood, clothing for body
non - gloves, socks, sneakers, shoes, clothing for feet or hands
nun - pants, shorts, underwear, clothing for lower body

p - verbs
pa - make, work, build, create, activate, active, on
pe - understand, know, science, study, learn, logic
pi - hit, attack, fight, battle
po - can, able to, may, allow, legal, possible
pu - change, edit, different, strange, crazy

pn - other
pan - energy, power, strength, sure, confidence, intense, energize, empower, charge (with energy), to load
pen - rule, control, use, main, important, lead, law
pin - hole, opening, portal, orifice
pon - group, community, society, social, network, company
pun - bad, rotten, spoil, ruin, worsen, wrong, evil, sick, disease, sickiness, difficult, complex

r - adjectives
ra - male
re - pretty
ri - ok, good, peace, healthy, fix, repair, heal, easy
ro - big, huge
ru - nice, kind

rn - occasions
ran - second, moment
ren - usually, daily
rin - sometimes
ron - rarely, seldom
run - always, eternal, forever

s - moments in time
sa - present, now, modern, is, am, to be
se - imperative, please
si - past, previous, before
so - future, after, then, next
su - would, if

sn - flavors
san - sweet, sugar
sen - spicy
sin - salty, salt
son - bitter, nasty
sun - sour

t - math operations
ta - add, plus, also, and, with
te - multiply, reproduce
ti - subtract, minus, delete, kill
to - divide, cut, slice, part, piece, fraction, element, particle
tu - in the power of

tn - animals
tan - land creature, mammal
ten - amphibian
tin - insect, roach
ton - bird, winged animal
tun - fish, sea creature

v - colors
va - white, light, daytime
ve - black, dark, shadow, night
vi - yellow
vo - red
vu - green, blue

vn - Earth
van - cave, valley, underground
ven - herb, medicine, grass, plant, leaf
vin - hill, mountain, button
von - wood, tree
vun - ground, soil, dirt, sand, Earth

w - numbers
wa - one
we - two
wi - three
wo - four
wu - five

wn - numbers
wan - six
wen - seven
win - eight
won - nine
wun - ten

x - body
xa - hair
xe - nail (of a hand), claw (of a paw), teeth, chew, bite, scratch
xi - eye, see, view, read
xo - ear, hear, listen
xu - nose, smell

xn - body (lower)
xan - mouth, lip, talk, speak, say
xen - tongue, tonsil, lick, taste
xin - throat, neck, swallow, eat, consume
xon - head, face
xun - brain, mind, intelligence, smart

y - numbers
ya - 100, hundred, 10^2
ye- 1000, thousand, 10^3
yi - 10000, ten thousand, 10^4
yo - 100000, hundred thousand, 10^5
yu - 1000000, million, 10^6

yn - numbers
yan - 10000000, ten million, 10^7
yen - 100000000, hundred million, 10^8
yin - 1000000000, billion, 10^9
yon - 10000000000, ten billion, 10^10
yun - 100000000000, hundred billion, 10^11

z - emotions
za - happy, content, joyful
ze - thankful, love, appreciate, care for
zi - angry, mad, crazy
zo - fear, hate, scared
zu - sad, sorry, regret

zn - time
zan- minute
zen - month
zin - year
zon - day
zun - hour



If your name is Mary just put the word for person "gen" and phonetically spell it with manca phonetics: genmarigen

numbers word like chinese

wa - 1
we - 2
wi - 3
wun - 10
ya - 100
ye - 1000

we wun - 20
we wun wa - 21
we wun we - 22
we wun wi - 23
we ya - 200
we ya wi - 203
we ya we wun - 220
we ya we wun we - 222

To Infinity:

The highest number in this language is this one (for a higher number say 'run (infinite)'):

yun tu yun: 10^11(10^11) - The sum of 10^11 in the power of the sum of 10^11

Months

January (first month): zenwa (month one)
February (second month): zenwe (month 2)

Days Of The Week:

Sunday (First Day) - zonwa (day one)
Monday (Second Day) - zonwe (day two)
Saturday (Seventh Day) - zonwen (day seven)

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby Partisan » 2009-11-08, 8:00

Any Toki Pona influence in this project?

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » 2009-11-08, 20:28

not really, besides the minimalistic approach (only having 180 words)

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby linguoboy » 2009-11-09, 17:56

If you're aiming for minimalism, why waste space on personal pronouns?
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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » 2009-11-23, 6:10

linguoboy wrote:If you're aiming for minimalism, why waste space on personal pronouns?


I think it's universal for a language to have pronouns. Also, I wanted to fill all of the syllables with a meaning. There are only 190 words AND they are ALL one syllable each so that you can combine them to make combines, how is that not minimal?

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby linguoboy » 2009-11-23, 17:30

arpee wrote:I think it's universal for a language to have pronouns.

It's not. Some languages use the equivalent of "self" (or humble words like "slave") for first person reference and various titles or euphemistic expressions (e.g. "honourable dwelling") for second person reference. Japanese is an example of such a language. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_pronouns for a summary treatment.)

Also, I wanted to fill all of the syllables with a meaning. There are only 190 words AND they are ALL one syllable each so that you can combine them to make combines, how is that not minimal?

Every concept that doesn't have it's own assigned syllable will have to be expressed in some periphrastic form. (For instance, how do you express such a basic concept as "ill" in this language?) The less you double up meanings in areas where it's reasonable to do so, the more it will be that frequent expressions will fall into this category and your sentences will end up longer.
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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby hashi » 2009-11-24, 4:22

I don't think it's really possible to make a language minimalistic when talking about vocab range. Because if you decrease the range of vocab, sure theres less to remember, but you then have to remember multiple meanings for the one word as well as the meanings and possible compounds that can be formed. It's like a seesaw, less of one thing, gives you more of another, its really finding what balance you want between the language, not making it more difficult or easier.

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » 2009-11-27, 6:21

linguoboy wrote:
arpee wrote:I think it's universal for a language to have pronouns.

It's not. Some languages use the equivalent of "self" (or humble words like "slave") for first person reference and various titles or euphemistic expressions (e.g. "honourable dwelling") for second person reference. Japanese is an example of such a language. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_pronouns for a summary treatment.)

Also, I wanted to fill all of the syllables with a meaning. There are only 190 words AND they are ALL one syllable each so that you can combine them to make combines, how is that not minimal?


Maybe you're on to something. I do remember hearing people's names instead of you/he/she in Japanese. If that method was always used, there would be no point of having a word like "watashi" since you can still distinguish, you/he/she/it with the name of persons/things. Perhaps that would be one way of not having pronouns.

Thank you! Are there any other ways the language can be minimalized? I am open to hear suggestions.

I have a way for possessions. Probably something like this can be used:

name is mika. mika friend is kin. kin did-say to mika "You are my best friend".


This way you can associate the name with the speaker.

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Re: manca - one syllable per word language

Postby arpee » 2009-12-11, 16:33

linguoboy wrote:
arpee wrote:I think it's universal for a language to have pronouns.

It's not. Some languages use the equivalent of "self" (or humble words like "slave") for first person reference and various titles or euphemistic expressions (e.g. "honourable dwelling") for second person reference. Japanese is an example of such a language. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_pronouns for a summary treatment.)

Also, I wanted to fill all of the syllables with a meaning. There are only 190 words AND they are ALL one syllable each so that you can combine them to make combines, how is that not minimal?

Every concept that doesn't have it's own assigned syllable will have to be expressed in some periphrastic form. (For instance, how do you express such a basic concept as "ill" in this language?) The less you double up meanings in areas where it's reasonable to do so, the more it will be that frequent expressions will fall into this category and your sentences will end up longer.

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