ベビーメタル

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ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-18, 7:17

ベビーメタルが好きですか。大好きです。

(Nihongo o benkyoo shimasu. Kore wa taihen warui dekita.)
I mean to say that "I love them" in the second sentence and "This could be very bad" in the last.
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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-21, 7:27

(Original question stuill open) Could I get the literal translation of the lyrics for Akatsuki? And if it's not too much trouble the kanji-kana lyrics as well? I'd prefer just the kana(don't understand kanji). Either way(with or without kanji) there's always google!

I want the literal translation because I think it'll help more than studying the translation and roomaji.

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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby enricmm » 2014-04-23, 8:39

Oh! This is good for a beginner like me! Let's give it a try.

1st sentence: 私はベビーメタルが大好きです。

2nd sentence: 日本語を勉強します。これはとても悪いことが出来ます。
Native: (ca) Native against my will: (es)
Advanced: (de) (us)
Intermediate: (zh)
Beginner: (ga) (ja)
Desiderata: (ar) (br) (chr) (cy) (egy) (el) (eo) (eu) (fo) (fr) (gl) (got) (grc) (he) (hi) (id) (iu) (is) (it) (km) (ko) (la) (lt) (lv) (nah) (no) (non) (oc) (pt) (ru) (sgn) (sq) (sv) (sw) (tr) (zhc)

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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-24, 0:02

私は話したい「ベビーメタルが愛する」、が、ええと、これは話しすいぐる。

I want to say "I love Baby Metal," but, uhh, this is too much.

Ps: pay attention to "aisuru." I used daisuki desu as "love" but not with the same effect as "aisuru."

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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby enricmm » 2014-04-24, 20:49

Do you feel affection and attraction for Baby Metal? In that case it's:

私はベビーメタルを愛しています。
Native: (ca) Native against my will: (es)
Advanced: (de) (us)
Intermediate: (zh)
Beginner: (ga) (ja)
Desiderata: (ar) (br) (chr) (cy) (egy) (el) (eo) (eu) (fo) (fr) (gl) (got) (grc) (he) (hi) (id) (iu) (is) (it) (km) (ko) (la) (lt) (lv) (nah) (no) (non) (oc) (pt) (ru) (sgn) (sq) (sv) (sw) (tr) (zhc)

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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-24, 22:41

I don't love them that way! :D

No, I simply have a grand enjoyment in listening to their music. Especially uki uki midnight: it's so up-beat and just overall genki.

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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Karavinka » 2014-04-28, 12:27

愛しています sounds like you're in an intimate relationship.
私はベビーメタルが好きです is good enough, or 私、ベビーメタルのファンです!


Alternatively:

ベビーメタル超可愛いハァハァ(*´Д`)すぅちゃん俺の嫁だお前ら近づくなw

BTW: I love Babymetal as well. They're surprisingly good.. I mean the lead vocalist SU is. And Hi Koko, my fellow Canadian weaboo comrade. :D
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Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Karavinka » 2014-04-28, 13:01

幾千もの夜を超えて
生き続ける愛があるから
この身体が滅びるまで
命が
消えるまで 守りつづけてゆく

ikusenmono yoruwo koete
ikutsudukeru aiga arukara
kono karadaga horobirumade
inochiga
kierumade mamoritsuduketeyuku

ikusen: a few thousands. iku- can be a few to several.
koeru: to pass, to go beyond, to transcend
-mo, literally "also", is used here as an intensifier
※1 "(passing) through several thousands of nights"

iki-tsudukeru: serialized verb. live-continue: continue to live.
※2 "because there is love that continues to live"

line 1 as a whole is a subordinate clause to line 2:
※1-2 "because there is a love that continues to live for thousands of nights"

※3 "until this body falls apart"
※4 "life"
※5A "until (it) disappear"
※5B "I go, continue protecting/preserving it"

5B has the same serialization with -tsuduku, don't ask why this time it's kana-only. it's arbitrary.
yuku is a variant of "iku" (to go), it's used either when describing train destination or metaphorical sense. 5B basically translates to "I'll keep preserving it"
※3-5 "I'll keep it until this body falls apart, until this life disappears"

瞳の奥に光る
泣き出しそうな月は
赤い涙 あふれて
夜空を染めてゆく

hitomino okuni hikaru
nakidashisouna tsukiha
akai namida afurete
yozorawo someteyuku

※1 shining in the depth of pupil
※2 moon that looks like it's about to cry

※1 is again the subordinate clause to "moon".
nakidasu: naku + -dasu, here it means "starts to cry" or "bursts out crying." -dasu "to let (something) out, to externalize"
nakidashi-sou-na : -sou adds the sense "it appears to be, it looks like"

※1-2 the moon that is shining deep in your pupil, which looks like it's about to cry out
> notice two subordinate clauses which makes literal translation awkward in english

※3 (the moon) sheds red tears
※4 (the moon) goes coloring/dying the night sky

yozora: yoru + sora. why yozora instead of yoruzora? don't ask.
the entire ※1-2 forms the subject to ※3-4.

静寂の中で
傷ついた刃差し向かい
孤独も不安も
斬りつける 心まで

seijakuno nakade
kizutsuita yaiba sashimukai
kodokumo fuanmo
kiritsukeru kokoromade

※1 in the middle of silence
seijaku is the kind of silence that comes with solemnity. think of a funeral, that's seijaku.

※2 hurt, i draw a blade and face
here it is a bit ambiguous. technically, "kizutsuita" (which is hurt) can either mean the narrator or the blade (yaiba), though it's more common sensical to think of it as the narrator. just mentioning.
kizutsuku: kizu (wound), tsuku (to stick, to add, to plaster, to inflict, etc.)
sashimukai: sasu+mukai. sasu can either "to point" or "to draw (a sword, etc.)

※3 loneliness as well as uncertainty
※4 cut through, as well as/until heart
-mo -mo "both ... as well as ..."
kiritsuku: kiru already means "to cut" by itself, adding -tsuku is more of an intensifier. "cut through" if you will.
kokoro-made: another ambiguous point, -made can be "as well as" (in this case, the narrator is cutting through his/her/whoever's heart as well) or "up to, until" (cutting through negative emotions until she discovers her true emotional state, etc.)

幾千もの夜を超えて
生き続ける愛があるから
この身体が滅びるまで
命が
消えるまで 守りつづけてゆく

*same as above

過ぎてゆく時の中
瞳を閉じたまま
この手に流れる赤い糸 切れても
感じている 絆を

sugiteyuku tokino naka
hitomiwo tojita mama
kono teni nagareru akai ito kiretemo
kanjiteiru kizunawo

※1 in the middle of time that continues passing
※2 while my pupils are closed
※3 the red string that flows through this hand, even when it's cut
※4 i'm still feeling it, the connection

sugu is "pass" as in "the time is passing." -yuku is the same construction.
-ta mama: while ...ing. "while my eyes are closed"
akai ito: red string. it's a common metaphor for interpersonal relationship, especially a romantic one.
kirete-mo: passive. -mo here is an intensifier, "even when" - even if the red string is cut - that is, her relationship with someone is now over.
kizuna: personal connection, comradeship, companionship, etc.
kanjiteiru - imperfect/continuous of kanjiru "to feel."

静寂の中で
傷ついた刃差し向かい
孤独も不安も
斬りつける 心まで
いま

*same as above

幾千もの夜を超えて
生き続ける愛があるから
この身体が滅びるまで
*命が いつか消えるまで

*inochiga itsuka kierumade

only the last line is slightly different, with "itsuka" - at some time (in the future)

幾千もの夜を超えて
生き続ける愛があるから
この身体が滅びるまで
命が
消えるまで 守りつづけてゆく
*紅く染まれ 真っ赤に染まれ

*akaku somare makkani somare

akai "red", akaku "red" (adverb) - english doesn't make the distinction, here it means "dye it red", in imperative.
makka "true red"; "makka-ni" is the adverbial form. unlike "akai", "makka" is treated as if it's nominal so it takes the particle -ni.

Hopefully it helps?

Koko

Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-28, 23:21

Omg!! Thank you! :D Yes, it helps a lot.

The info on how to say "I like Babymetal," is helpful, too. I especially like the "fellow Canadian weaboo comrade" part. Even though I have no idea what "weaboo" is.

Koko

Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-04-28, 23:26

So it's really like saying "dye redly?" That makes sense, I think. I don't know how to describe how :roll:

Karavinka

Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Karavinka » 2014-05-06, 0:15

Koko wrote:So it's really like saying "dye redly?" That makes sense, I think. I don't know how to describe how :roll:


That'd be right.

Koko

Re: ベビーメタル

Postby Koko » 2014-06-05, 7:16

Is "cho matte" a short form of "chotto matte?" (from doki doki morning)

In my textbook it gives chotto matte, so I must assume since both mean "wait a minute," that the former is a short form and probably colloquial.

I'm also curious to know why Japanese is so hard to translate well into English? Many of Babymetal's lyrics don't make any sense whatsoever in English, but they must sound right in Japanese if they work so well together… right? The only song I could find that made the most sense in Enhlish (but not tune-wise) was Akatsuki (when not litteral).


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