"Esperanta" reasons

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby Meera » 2010-03-11, 20:13

Formiko wrote:
Meera wrote:my friend and i are learning so when we speak no one understand us :lol:


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Dankon. I never heard of esperento until my freind tell me about it
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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby Meera » 2010-03-11, 20:14

Sean of the Dead wrote:
Meera wrote:my friend and i are learning so when we speak no one understand us :lol:

Bryon and I have recently thought of doing this too, with Esperanto also. :D It'd be really easy top learn, and it would be awesome to be able to talk to each other in a different language. :mrgreen: I know I've said I'd never learn Esperanto, but recently I've started liking it (along with some other Romance languages :P ), and it'd be fun to learn. :)

Also, I was looking on meetup.com, and saw several people in Seattle (right next to my city) are looking for an Esperanto group, so eventually I could help get one started, so people could get together and practice.


oh wow thats really cool about the group, you should do it.
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esperanto's function

Postby ruskey86 » 2010-11-21, 23:22

Esperanto has more or less become a language only used by enthusiasts. It has lost support because it has no symbol behind it, no true people of the language. I personally hate esperanto (in the sense of trying to be a world language) because well one might as well learn spanish, two it is extremely european biased, which leaves out the greater population of the world, and finally in a linguist's point of view could have been done much better.
Esperanto as a fan language, I wouldn't preferably want to learn it but if others do more power to them. I just don't want arguements of it being simple to anyone.
A colleague and I have been working on devising the most linguistically simple and effective language without european bias, such as having a distinction between l and r (let alone a thrilled r). Verb conjugation would be gone, an isolated language is best all around. So instead of changing a verb a particle (a stand alone word) would indicate tense.
Thought most likely no language (without adequate support and international recognition) will ever likely become the universally accepted IAL. Also even the most simple language would require adequate effort to learn. To reach a true native level of speach one would need at least 25,000 words.
At the moment English is the universal language (which, in my opinion, shouldn't be).
well that's my two sense (or maybe $1 )

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby linguaholic » 2010-11-21, 23:29

If you hate Esperanto, why are you posting on the Esperanto forum and on a thread that is about your reasons to learn Esperanto? Please leave this forum to people who actually want to learn the language.
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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby ''' » 2010-11-22, 3:33

or rather, why did he make an account just so he could post on an Eo forum.
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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby Formiko » 2010-11-22, 4:31

''' wrote:or rather, why did he make an account just so he could post on an Eo forum.

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby johnH » 2010-11-23, 21:01

what ever language you spoke is highly ammusing if it’· esperanto…… then sign me up. :›| It’s funnier than dutch :D .
Besides it somehow seams awesome to me the argument I guess but it’s spoken around the world seams to be a stronger one.

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby Axystos » 2010-11-23, 22:24

Hey, Dutch is spoken around the world, too! :)

Anyway, sorry for off topic, kontinuu. :)
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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby johnH » 2011-03-19, 11:40

It's actually rather understandable. compared to other languages, ‹O_o› it's comparatively neutral, it seams rather regular it's pre/suffixes are simple enough it uses compounds [probably], so going by that it's quite likely that esperanto is a rather easy to understand language.
Especially compared to my increasing frustration with english.
okay I'm converted into an Esperantist.

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby marcxjo » 2012-05-28, 15:11

I know this thread is ages old, but I'll throw in my two cents anyway.

Oh, and "saluton mondo!" -- this is my first post here.

My story starts off a bit like Formiko's, except that I was actually really dim as a kid. (Luckily I've turned that pretty well around, I think.) I found Esperanto in an encyclopedia article when I was younger-- I was awestruck by the idea of a constructed language that people actually spoke on a scale of more than, say, just two people. A few years ago, on a semester off from university, I decided to give a legitimate go to learning it. I was instantly fascinated by its grammatical simplicity and the way almost every single lexical fragment of the language could be used and reused... it was almost mathematical. I also got deeply into conlanging in general around the same time, but I still read, write, talk online, and lately dream (no joke) in Esperanto pretty much daily.

I don't really have any particular attachment to the ideals of Esperanto, though-- I think the idea of speaking an artificial language makes people too uncomfortable to see it gain much traction (anyone who's ever tried to explain EO to a steadfastly skeptical friend or colleague knows what I mean here). The fact that it doesn't already have a particularly large audience apart from the propaganda to spread it across the globe doesn't help. But I didn't really have any of that in mind when I learned EO anyway. I just wanted to learn what looked like an interesting language, and hopefully make interesting friends with it (and I have!). I've even learned a few other auxlangs to varying fluency just as an extension of the joy I got from EO, and for more or less the same reasons. I don't get why so many people get so worked up about defending auxlangs rather than enjoying them for the intrinsic interest they offer. Most of them have at least small communities that are quite friendly, and even though they're likely not getting any bigger too soon, they make it worthwhile to learn their language.

I would totally support learning Esperanto just for the experience. But if you have particularly practical goals when it comes to learning languages, you're better off investing your energies elsewhere. Esperanto will probably never take off on any scale much grander than it has now, but it has just enough speakers to be fun.
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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby johnH » 2012-07-05, 0:26

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26740#p519362
Somehow I managed to have a bad childhood by the same age and still not manage to teach myself anything, instead my brain retreated into fantasy... :shock: Atleast that began rather young...
I love learning but somehow I can't put substance of what I read or what ever else into my brain.

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Re: "Esperanta" reasons

Postby JuxtapositionQMan » 2013-12-23, 19:42

It's helping me learn a few other languages, given the word-order freedom, phonetic alphabet, and straightforward derivation system. I can always translate back to Esperanto to make sense of something. For instance, since Welsh has a V-S-O order, I can't easily translate it directly to English, but Esperanto's accusative n lets it be in that order (Kicked Ygraine the potato vs. Piedbatis Ijgrejn' lan terpomon). Or, if I was studying, for example, Icelandic, the morphology would most likely have an equivalent in Esperanto.
Ĝi estas helpanta mi lerni iom aliuj lingvoj, pro la vortaranĝa libero, fonetika alfabeto, kaj hela devena sistemo. Mi povas retrotraduki al Espo konstrui senco de io. Ekzemple, ĉar Kimra havas V-T-O aranĝo, mi nepovas traduki rekte al Angla (Kicked Ygraine the potato vs. Piedbatis Ijgrejn' lan terpomon). Aŭ, se mi estis studanta, ekzemple, Islanda, la transformlogio plej versajne havus ekvivalento en Espo.
Btw, Why do I always go to these forums and see people arguing about whether Esperanto is good? You want to do that? Go make your own thread to complain! Until then, shut up!
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