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I'm mostly on Israel's side, minus the whole West Bank fiasco, but this is a good starter for discussing bias in the media (which is what this thread is about). In the United States, especially among right-wingers and many Jewish people, anything less than unconditional support of Israel is seen as anti-Semitic. Among the left wing in Europe, support of Israel is seen as racist and oppressive towards Arabs. Funnily enough, both somehow equate Israel with all Jewish people, even though there are more Jews living outside of Israel than in it.So, still no idea what has this gotta do with what I wrote, just lash out at Israel across several posts, ignore naturally the Arab and Muslim states and terrorist organizations which openly aim for Israel's destruction and bombard it with rockets and whatnot, then get back to topic Nice.
Problem solved.I think it's our right to know what kind of foreign people live in our country
Sol Invictus wrote:Might I offer a diffrent perspective? Perhaps in some countries they make a bit of a overkill, here though we usually get "this and this.happened" first and then "oh, and about people from Latvia" sometimes followed by "a person from Latvia tells about their expierience". I think this is fine - first of all it lets people whose friends or family might be in affected country know, if they should worry and secondly it gives more realism to news - people care more about fellow countrymen, than somebody living on otherside of the world and first hand accounts of one person's expierience will always evoke more emotion than statistics on how many people have been killed
mōdgethanc wrote:Among the left wing in Europe, support of Israel is seen as racist and oppressive towards Arabs. Funnily enough, both somehow equate Israel with all Jewish people, even though there are more Jews living outside of Israel than in it.
mōdgethanc wrote:Among the left wing in Europe, support of Israel is seen as racist and oppressive towards Arabs. Funnily enough, both somehow equate Israel with all Jewish people, even though there are more Jews living outside of Israel than in it.
Set wrote:And supporting Israel is racist and oppressive since it is a racist and oppressive country - I find it funny how Israel supporters try to position themselves as moderates considering how the vast majority of the world and the UN condemns Israel's acts.
All of which I'm willing to bet are more oppressive than Israel, even taking the Palestinians into account. Israel is, among other things, the only country out of its neighbours where gender equality is taken seriously, the only country where LGBT rights are respected at all, the only country where immigrants are welcomed and encouraged to integrate, and the only one that's a stable democracy, except maybe Turkey. The situation in the West Bank is bad, but it can't be compared to the rest of Israel where Arabs are full citizens and have the same rights as everyone else.Babelfish wrote::pff: Not really surprising, with about 400 million Arabs and more than a billion Muslims, with 22 Arab countries
Babelfish wrote:Set wrote:And supporting Israel is racist and oppressive since it is a racist and oppressive country - I find it funny how Israel supporters try to position themselves as moderates considering how the vast majority of the world and the UN condemns Israel's acts.
Not really surprising, with about 400 million Arabs and more than a billion Muslims, with 22 Arab countries and 57 Muslim countries, all against Israel in everything and dragging behind them a bunch of oil-thirsty other countries. Do you really find it plausible that more than half of the decisions by the UN "council on human rights" denounce Israel, as if there's more suffering here than in all other places in the world put together? Heck, more people have been already killed in the Syrian civil war than in the entire history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but guess where the media focuses.
Israel is oppressive towards the Palestinians mainly because they and their brethren have been trying to destroy it since before its inception. As for racism, Israeli citizens are equal before the law, and there's no more racism here than in the majority of other countries, including your dear Europe.
Babelfish wrote:Heck, more people have been already killed in the Syrian civil war than in the entire history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but guess where the media focuses.
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