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OK, like the authorized Catholic stand point. But where does the deity come from, what's its origin?hlysnan wrote:Specifically, deistic evolutionism.
Where does the complexity come from? Can complexity appear from nowhere without some kind of accumulating process like e.g. evolution? Imagine a baby being born. Its origin? The parents. It ends there, right? You only need parents to make babies. (Oh, wait a minute - babies grow up, don't they? ) I understand if your brain gets to tired when thinking about what the baby's parents' origin is, but people like me like to take the leap to also trying to include the theory of grandparents (and great greandparents etc.).hlysnan wrote:The deity is the origin.
By definition, no. But in the simulated-universe approach the deity may be considered to be a being in a higher-level universe.hlysnan wrote:Can the origin have an origin?
Hunef wrote:Where does the complexity come from? Can complexity appear from nowhere without some kind of accumulating process like e.g. evolution? Imagine a baby being born. Its origin? The parents. It ends there, right?
Hunef wrote:By definition, no. But in the simulated-universe approach the deity may be considered to be a being in a higher-level universe.
I mean the deity's complexity, not the present universe's complexity. If accepting that something had to add complexity to our universe you also ned to explain the origin of the source of complexity, i.e., where the deity came from.hlysnan wrote:It's like you say though. The complexity arises from evolution.
Chekhov wrote:I don't know about naive worldviews, but Jurgen Wullenwhatever pisses me off to no end because of his extreme pessimism and cynicism. You'd think the world was going to end imminently when talking to that guy.
Design? According to the story, yes.Jurgen Wullenwever wrote:Is creationism then "un-intelligent design"?
melan wrote:I don't believe in anything. I accept as true what has been conclusively proven scientifically, which is the case for only one of those four.
Tenebrarum wrote:"I believe in evolution" is like "I believe in physics".
melan wrote:I wonder who voted for intelligent design.
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