Eesti keele alased materjalid / Estonian language resources

[Yan Mateyko]

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biblioteka - library
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[Loiks]

Dziekuje!

[Yan Mateyko]

Palun

[Loiks]

I thought this link would be interesting to estophiles: http://einst.ee/publications.html

[Alcadras]

This website is awesome, It has lots of links, pdf files, archives, flash files..... I think I'll be offline for hours by reading them.
Dozen questions about Estonia (Flash) is great but it is demo. I've been collecting things about countries like that, is there any website where i can order from?

[JoshMcD]

I know this is mostly Covered int eh "Learn Estonian Thread" However, I have recieved several messages about the resources I use to learn Estonian... So in the end I decided to post a collective of all the ones I know of. **Edit I am on my laptop and Currently only have these few links, when I get home I shall post the rest**

http://aare.pri.ee/dictionary.html

http://www.cusd.claremont.edu/~tkroll/E ... -list.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/other/qu ... nian.shtml

http://www.speakestonian.co.uk/


And if you haven't read this already, I highly recommend reading this... It doesnt teach you Estonian, but it is about Estonia. Very well written.

http://lettersfromestonia.blogspot.com/

[Loiks]

I read the blog. Nicely and honestly written. It's weird I have never heard a writer called Kristi Luik, maybe because I don't read SL Õhtuleht or Kroonika, although one of my best friends works for SLÕL (as does a girl I recently happened to kiss ).

[JoshMcD]

One of my best friends int he whole wide world, Anna-Liisa, had Kristi as an Instructor in English some time ago. This is how I found out about it.

And on a side note. Congrats you sly fox you.

Edit** Adding more links**

http://www.einst.ee/publications/langua ... ulary.html

http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/march/Estonian.html

http://www.lmp.ucla.edu/profile.aspx?menu=004

http://www.ibs.ee/dict

http://www.magma.ca/~raksim/estonian/ve ... plete.html

http://www.ub.uit.no/baser/nordlyd/incl ... 3&mode=pdf

http://www1018.vu.lt/index.php/pageid/63

http://www.jpblevins.net/pdf/yom05.pdf

Ill add more as I come across them.

[Patrick88]

http://www.filosoft.ee/lemma_et - muutu sõna vormis fleksioonidega sõnaraamatu vormiks ...change a word with inflections to its dictionary (ie uninflected) form...like enter in "olen" and get "olema"

http://www.filosoft.ee/gene_et - tekita sõnavormi selle sõnaraamatu vormist...
Generate inflected forms of a word from its dictionary form...

http://www.filosoft.ee/html_morf_et/ - analüüsi paljud sõna ja näita nende vormisid..näiteks autos --" auto+s //_S_ sg in, //" ....analyze many words at once and show their forms... for example... autos -- " auto+s //_S_ sg in, //"

http://www.eki.ee/dict/qs2006/ - Eesti õigekeelsussõnaraamat. Siin, sa võid näha sõna vormisid ja asju nagu ülipikk ja palatalisatsioon... Here, you can see word forms and things like overlong and palatalization marked.....

[hashi]

We don't seem to have a single thread for collecting links to Estonian resources, so I figured I would start one for those interested in learning Estonian or finding out more about it.

General
Wikipedia page about Estonian
Estonian alphabet and phonology (Omniglot)
Eesti keele instituut

Phrases and Vocab
Speak Estonian - phrases, vocab, verbs

Grammar
List of cases
Estonian language blog (Recommended!)

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If you have any more links, post them below and I will try to keep this original post as up to date as possible, but thats not always possible, so be sure to read the entire thread too!

[corcaighist]

Keel ja meel

My favourite online Estonian dictionary

This is a Godsend!!

More Grammar Notes

[Arvi]

Here you can use several dictionaries at once

To Corcaighist: I read in your blog about your confusion with estonian syntax
Follow Hashi's link Eesti Keele Instituut>Books>Eesti Keele Käsiraamat - and select SÜNTAKS there. The text there is really heawy-weight, but as linquist you are probably able to cope with it.
Generally, in Estonian you can reorder different parts of sentence (or words in part of sentence) quite freely - but usually the meaning of the sentence depends on used order (sometimes the difference is subtle, sometimes cardinal). But you have to keep individual parts of the sentence together. (Parts of sentence = Lauseliikmed)
You may say, that in Estonian, the syntax carries additional information.

[corcaighist]

Aitäh sulle Arvi.

[Loiks]

Omniglot is not correct about long vowels and consonants: they are never written with three letters. Three letters can appear only in combined words or if suffix is added: if vowels: maa-ala, if consonants: kukkki (-gi/-ki).

Secondly, the letter z is [tsett] not [see]. Only used in Greek loanwords like zoo- (-loogia, -loog, -fiil etc). It is also used for some Võro family names like Zirk [tsirk].

[hashi]

Omniglot is not correct about long vowels and consonants: they are never written with three letters. Three letters can appear only in combined words or if suffix is added: if vowels: maa-ala, if consonants: kukkki (-gi/-ki).

Secondly, the letter z is [tsett] not [see]. Only used in Greek loanwords like zoo- (-loogia, -loog, -fiil etc). It is also used for some Võro family names like Zirk [tsirk].

Haha, I always think the word poisssõber is a cute word with it's three s's.

Oddly, Colloquial Estonian says z is zee :/

[Loiks]

I guess it's a little bit a matter of cultural heritage: [zee] is Soviet-Russian variant and [tsett] Baltic German. Estonians are almost inable to pronounce [z], so it's either [s] or [ts]. [tsee] (c) and [see] (z) would sound very similar, so [tsett] is better to distinguish.

[hashi]

I guess it's a little bit a matter of cultural heritage: [zee] is Soviet-Russian variant and [tsett] Baltic German. Estonians are almost inable to pronounce [z], so it's either [s] or [ts]. [tsee] (c) and [see] (z) would sound very similar, so [tsett] is better to distinguish.

Interesting. Are there many soviet Russians still in Estonia who can differentiate /s/ and /z/?

[Arvi]

I guess it's a little bit a matter of cultural heritage: [zee] is Soviet-Russian variant and [tsett] Baltic German. Estonians are almost inable to pronounce [z], so it's either [s] or [ts]. [tsee] (c) and [see] (z) would sound very similar, so [tsett] is better to distinguish.

Someone having a surname like Zirk is either showing off, or having foreign ancestors. Or somewhere in 19. century some German landlord did give this name to someone, and it lived through all name-changing campaigns until today.

In Estonian, all person names, and almost all site (country, settlement, region etc.) names, from countries, which are using latin alphabet, are written as in original language - and are pronounced as in original language too. Characters c, q, z, x and y are used in such names only. And other characters not included int Estonian alphabet may be used too - in case printing office has proper fonts. (Any estonian not able to pronounce such name properly is probably considered as an illiterate - taking into account the number of different languages which use latin alphabet this makes almost everyone of us illiterate )

The writing of names from languages using other alphabets is based on pronuncion in original language - and along with proper estonian characters foreign come characters (f, š, z and ž) may be used too (like Tšernomõrdin p.e.).

Characters f, š and ž are also used rarely in borrowed words, which aren't 'estonized' jet, like šaakal. füüsika or žetoon. No really estonian word (or name) can contain any character from either of groups.

[Loiks]

I guess it's a little bit a matter of cultural heritage: [zee] is Soviet-Russian variant and [tsett] Baltic German. Estonians are almost inable to pronounce [z], so it's either [s] or [ts]. [tsee] (c) and [see] (z) would sound very similar, so [tsett] is better to distinguish.

Interesting. Are there many soviet Russians still in Estonia who can differentiate /s/ and /z/?

We have about 30 percent Russian speaking colonists brought in during the occupation.

[corcaighist]

Practice your Estonian proverbs with this set of flashcards. Lots of fun.