Hungarian and Sumerian?

[sa wulfs]

I can't watch Transformers without the Mexican accent. No way.

[kalemiye]

I can't watch Transformers without the Mexican accent. No way.

the coolness of transformers go beyond accents.

[sa wulfs]

I can't watch Transformers without the Mexican accent. No way.

the coolness of transformers go beyond accents.

Interesting hypothesis. However, "Autobots, transfórmense y avancen."

[nJohn West-Hungary]

Wow! I'm truly amazed... How come such things are possible! Now I'm sure, the pyramids were built by aliens.

No, they were built by TRANSFORMERS. Oh yeeeah.

Are they preferable TRANCE FARMERS ??

[Zsazsa]

Hi Everybody,

I'm reading your Hungarian + Sumerian topic for a while and I'm amazed at your deep knowledge and interests, and some people's ignorant and malicious
remarks.
I have find a website by an italian writer about the
first, indigenous populations of Europe.

Michelangelo Naddeo's books are in English, he published already 2 and the third is at the printery.

What have we inherited from them ? How did they live, and speak ? What was their society, art and culture like ???

The titles of these books are tell a lot....

1. "Germanico runes...a finnish alphabet.
2. "Honfoglalás...the Magyars are back home"

Since a few years, Russian and Chinese results of archeologie and old papers, codexes are possible to search, we can await for lots of proves against the Indo-Europian theory.
Naddeo's theories are all proven by written ancient signs or texts, comparisons of alphabeths.
But as he writes it : he is not a blond or not a hungarian either.
Very interesting to read....
http://michelangelo.cn

[nJohn West-Hungary]

Abstract
Until now almost every possible neolithisation scenario of the Great Hungarian Plain has been sketched. That
is why the task of the future research can not be so much to conceive new theories as to test the older ones.
These are differing mainly about the presumed role the Mesolithic aboriginals played in the process.
According to the hitherto dominant view, the southern settlers of the Körös culture wandered up to the middle of

the Great Hungarian Plain, where the local unfamiliar ecological endowments and the resistance of the
aboriginals forced them to stop, leaving them the only possibility to detour to the east and colonise with smaller
settlements the Upper Tisza and Szamos region. In the formation of the ALPC to the local Mesolithic inhabitants
was attached decisive importance, who in the course of a long side by side living with the Körös culture and
after a rapid acculturation process took over every aspects of the Neolithic novelties and finally even conquer

the territory of the Körös culture.
Recently, partly due to research done in Heves County, we have managed to paint more realistic picture on the
ALPC. Since we have new results from the sphere of the Körös culture as well, thanks to the recent discovery

and excavation of a Körös site at TiszaszőlősœDomaháza-puszta, we can contribute to the discussion of the
neolithisation in possession of rich comparative material. Based on these, we attribute much greater impact to

the Körös culture in the development of the ALPC then before, so we can justify just those earlier opinions
which ascribed only marginal role to the local Mesolithic population − at least in this early phase of the
process.
In this paper we made a short report on the discovery and excavation of the Körös site at Tiszaszőlős escorted
by some find-scattering maps and characteristic finds of the site and draw some preliminary conclusions on the

so far analysed material.
KEYWORDS

: NEOLITHIC PERIOD

, KÖRÖS CULTURE





http://www.ace.hu/am/2005_2/AM-2005-2-DL.pdf

[nJohn West-Hungary]

The first european money is the hungarian DÉNÁR from the 11th century.


http://index.hu/gazdasag/magyar/pnzt070713/



The father of the new EURO is ALEXANDER LAMFALUSSY:

hungarian economist, living in BELGIUM.

(Lámfalussy Sándor (Kapuvár, 1929 – ) Belgiumban élő magyar számazású jegybankár, tőkepiaci szakértő, az euró "atyja". Belga állampolgár, nős, négy gyermeke ...)

[Nukalurk]

And what about the Roman coins?

[nJohn West-Hungary]

And what about the Roman coins?

Yes, but was in Europe without the Roman Empire other kingdom/country or "state" ??

[sa wulfs]

Whatever happened to the city-states all of sudden? And even then, the 5th century is full of Germanic kingdoms. You can bet they used coins.

Seriously now, stick to pseudo-science, because history is not your forte.

[nJohn West-Hungary]

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new ALFRED TÓTH's works:


http://www.mek.oszk.hu/05000/05022/05022.pdf
http://www.federatio.org/mi_bibl/AlfredToth_EDH.pdf
http://www.federatio.org/mi_bibl/AlfredToth_Addenda_EDH.pdf





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[nJohn West-Hungary]

Whatever happened to the city-states all of sudden? And even then, the 5th century is full of Germanic kingdoms. You can bet they used coins.

Seriously now, stick to pseudo-science, because history is not your forte.

The history:

The ancient Franks' history is very unclarified.
The root is very slim:
HISTORIA FRANCORUM ( Gregory of Tours, 573-594.)

He cited unknown and losted works from Sulpicius, Frigedius..

And roman roots: Ammianus and Sidonius Apollinaris.

He wrote (Gregory of Tours) : the franks lived in Pannonia before going to the west, cause: markomann's war..... etc...


So, where is the large GERMANIC KINGDOM ?? --- germanic kingdoms ? ( ONE BIG, or many little ?? my etimology it is DUKEDOM only , on tribe-basis.....)

Later:

MEROVING-dynasty: 419(?)-751 (Therein: Neustria, Austrasia, Burgundia-Aquitania...)
KAROLING-dynasty: 751-843 (VERDUN : 3 kingdoms)

There everybody maked coins, yet also the dukes....

Under these dynasties the EMPIRE wasn't organic.

80-85 % of the documentations of Charlemagne are imitations, fakes. ( Those were created in 12-13th centuries..)


And the question: Where are the material proofs from this centuries ?? ( The Roman is exist, but the 5-9th centuries ?? )

[nJohn West-Hungary]

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more ALFRED TÓTH's works:



http://www.mek.oszk.hu/04500/04567/04567.pdf
http://www.mek.oszk.hu/04800/04815/04815.pdf
http://www.mek.oszk.hu/05000/05056/05056.pdf

[Oleksij]

Not again...

[nJohn West-Hungary]

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http://www3.isrl.uiuc.edu/~junwang4/langev/localcopy/pdf/forster03phylogeneticChronology.pdf


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[nJohn West-Hungary]

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http://www.magtudin.org/puspoki%20Eng.%201.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%202.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%203.htm


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[Levo]

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http://www.magtudin.org/puspoki%20Eng.%201.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%202.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%203.htm


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Amúgy miért nem veszel részt más topikokban is? Itt olyan jó aktív vagy (pozitív hanggal értem), kellenek a magyarok máshol is

[nJohn West-Hungary]

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http://www.magtudin.org/puspoki%20Eng.%201.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%202.htm
http://www.magtudin.org/Puspoki%20Eng.%203.htm


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Amúgy miért nem veszel részt más topikokban is? Itt olyan jó aktív vagy (pozitív hanggal értem), kellenek a magyarok máshol is

Szia Levo !

LUKÁCS JÁNOS mondta: "Magyarország a hazám, Amerika az otthonom."


NAJAHUHA nicknéven töltöm időm jórészét az ORIGO és az INDEX történelmi fórumain.
Bár itt is többfelé járok, csak hullámokban, alkalomadtán...

Hi, Levo !

JOHN LUKACS told: "Hungary is my kith, America is my home".

I take long time over the historian FORUMs of the www.origo.hu and www.index.hu by nickname NAJAHUHA..
But I get about a great deal in the Unilang Forum on occasion only.

[Egein]

Most unlinguistic thread ever.

[nJohn West-Hungary]

Most unlinguistic thread ever.

And They ?


NEW-AGE in the research:

( Laszló MARACZ,linguistic, Univ. Amsterdam
A. MARCANTONIO,linguistic, Univ.La Sapiensa, Rome,
Geza BALÁZS,linguistic, Univ. ELTE, Budapest ,
Janos PUSZTAY,linguistic, Univ West-Hungarian, Berzsenyi-Institute, Szombathely ,
M. ALINEI,linguistic, emerit. prof. Univ. Utrecht ,
K. CZEGLÉDY,linguistic, Univ. Nagy Lajos, Miskolc ,
E. ARADI, indologist, Univ. Janus Pannonius, Asia Institute, Pécs,
B. OBRUSÁNSZKY, historian-orientalist, Hungarian Science Academy
M. ERDY , orientalist, USA,
K. BAKAY , archeologist-historian, Univ. Nagy Lajos, Miskolc
Alfred Tóth, linguistic, mathematician, Switzerland


etc..etc..

from FINNISH:

Künnap, Wiik, Julku etc....