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Darky wrote:How do you pronounce "fragile"?
I've always thought that it was with a "ai" sound "frag-ail", but I heard it in a song as something more like "ee", "frag-eel"
(hmm sorry I should re-learn IPA... )
Psi-Lord wrote:Darky wrote:How do you pronounce "fragile"?
I've always thought that it was with a "ai" sound "frag-ail", but I heard it in a song as something more like "ee", "frag-eel"
(hmm sorry I should re-learn IPA... )
According to the Cambridge English Pronouncing dictionary, it has an "i" /aɪ/ sound in RP, and may have a schwa /ə/ or just a syllabic final "l" in GA.
Kirk wrote:"mobile" [ˈmo̜ːbɫ̩]
"futile" [ˈfjɯɾɫ̩] (so, it's homophonous with my "feudal")
"missile" [ˈmɪsɫ̩]
"fertile" [ˈf3˞ɾɫ̩]
"fragile" [ˈfɹæːdʒɫ̩]
"juvenile" [ˈdʒɯːvənɫ̩] or also [ˈdʒɯːvənaɪɫ]
"hostile" [ˈhɑstɫ̩] (homophonous with my "hostel")
"volatile" [ˈvɑɫəɾɫ̩]
"docile" [ˈdɑsɫ̩]
"sterile" [ˈstɛɹɫ̩]
That is funny It is so differently spelt. I pronounced it very wrong, I think, as I pronounced a w and another sounding r and t.Stan wrote:Vogelvrij wrote:If the w isn't pronounced in write, does this word sounds the same as the word right?
yes
Vogelvrij wrote:That is funny It is so differently spelt. I pronounced it very wrong, I think, as I pronounced a w and another sounding r and t.Stan wrote:Vogelvrij wrote:If the w isn't pronounced in write, does this word sounds the same as the word right?
yes
Canard wrote:? Unless I missed something, feudal and futile are pronounced very differently in my parts. Since I lack IPA voodoo, feudal is like "fyoo-duhl" and futile is "fyoo-tile", though I've heard "fyoo-till" too. But I've never heard the two as equivalents.
Canard wrote:? Unless I missed something, feudal and futile are pronounced very differently in my parts. Since I lack IPA voodoo, feudal is like "fyoo-duhl" and futile is "fyoo-tile", though I've heard "fyoo-till" too. But I've never heard the two as equivalents.
Canard wrote:I'm trying to learn IPA and I'm confused... for a word like "may", would you write [mej], [mɜː], [mɛj] or [me]? And what's this nonsense of dictionaries having their own little phonetic world, like webster.com says "may" is "mA"
Also having trouble finding a guide that isn't a "learn English!" or "buy this software!" site with no useful information.
secretGeek on CodingHorror wrote:Type inference is not a gateway drug to more dynamically typed languages.
Rather "var" is a gateway drug toward "real" type inferencing, of which var is but a tiny cigarette to the greater crack mountain!
Psi-Lord wrote:Stan wrote:I also horribly lack the gift of IPAcraft
/bɪˈweərəvˈmɑːstəˈkɜːkənɪzˈkʌvnðen/
Do I even know what I'm doing?
Travis B. wrote:Note that [meɪ] is effectively just a slight notational variation from [mej]. However, it seems that in at least most IPA transcription, diphthong glides not corresponding to phonemic semivowels are generally marked with vowels rather than with semivowels.
Canard wrote:I'm trying to learn IPA and I'm confused... for a word like "may", would you write [mej], [mɜː], [mɛj] or [me]? And what's this nonsense of dictionaries having their own little phonetic world, like webster.com says "may" is "mA"
Also having trouble finding a guide that isn't a "learn English!" or "buy this software!" site with no useful information.
Travis B. wrote:What you would write depends on what you say in your native dialect, or whatever other particular dialect you may happen to be transcribing. In my own dialect, I would transcribe such as [meː] (or without allophonic vowel length as [me]), but in other dialects one is likely to encounter things like [meɪ] (without allophonic vowel length included, that is).
Skye wrote:Where can you get the IPA transcription, so I can stop looking at the lovely squares? We learnt IPA transcription at college, I want to see if I can still remember it.
Kirk wrote:[ɑɫso̜ biˈwɛɹ əv saɪ lɔrd n̩ hɪːz ˈikwɫ̩i ˈmɪstʃəvɪs əˈtʰɛmps əɾ ɪnˈs3˞ɾiŋ aɪpʰiˈe əɾ ˈɪni tʃænts]
Kirk wrote:And by the way, what's [ˈkʌvnðen]? "Cuvventhen?" "Coventhen?" Am I being dense or is this just some out-there word from like a story or something that I shouldn't be expected to know?
Stan wrote:Psi-Lord wrote:Stan wrote:I also horribly lack the gift of IPAcraft
/bɪˈweərəvˈmɑːstəˈkɜːkənɪzˈkʌvnðen/
Beware of....the rest I can't figure out.
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