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xBlackHeartx wrote: Communist youtube channels like Vox
md0 wrote:xBlackHeartx wrote: Communist youtube channels like Vox
That's one hell of a broad definition for 'communist' as well, if they are talking about the main channel that goes by the name Vox.
xBlackHeartx wrote:You do know they openly admit to being communist
xBlackHeartx wrote:and even once uploaded a video seriously defending the antifa, right?
xBlackHeartx wrote:I'm sick of the alt-right, and the only alternatives I've been able to find anywhere are Communist youtube channels like Vox, which I'm not too fond of. I never agreed with everything they said; I just watched them just so I can see some sanity online.
I don't necessarily want a place where I can voice my opinions (though I'm sure others would), I just want a place I can go where I don't have to look at dozens of articles and videos and whatnot bashing on feminism and blacks and 'leftists' and anyone else who actually has some resemblance of sanity. I'm just beyond sick of having to look at this kind of stuff all the time. It distresses me and it doesn't seem I can escape it, no matter where I go.
xBlackHeartx wrote:You do know they openly admit to being communist, and even once uploaded a video seriously defending the antifa, right?
xBlackHeartx wrote:and even once uploaded a video seriously defending the antifa, right?
Ciarán12 wrote:As more or less a centrist (I don't like labels, but if I had to pick one...) I'm pissed of at almost everyone for pretty much everything they say.
xBlackHeartx wrote:You do know they openly admit to being communist, and even once uploaded a video seriously defending the antifa, right?
xBlackHeartx wrote:Besides, what are their actions going to accomplish?
There's also Stepback History, which is run by a guy who, again, openly admits to being pro-communist. Scary enough, he's also quite well respected in the history community, even though I don't know of any others that seriously defend communism.
md0 wrote:I failed to consider compound probability of course, you can be both.To do my bit to help you: Karl Marx, in addition to being the author of the Communist Manifesto, is also one of the most important sociologists to this day, he is part of the Western canon, and even if one absolutely despises communism, they will engage with his theories if they are in the field. That alone doesn't make them communist.
Others may do some of your homework on your other points, it's late in my timezone.
All I've ever heard was that he didn't know the first thing about economics, and inspired a movement that lead to some of the worst totalitarian regimes on the planet. I certainly never heard his name come up in any classes on economics. Literally the only time I've ever heard his name come up is in discussions about the rise of communism. Of course, I'm aware he IS talked about a lot in communist nations, that happen to also be famous for propaganda and dis-information. They're not exactly famous for valuing truth.
the Economist wrote:Rulers of the world: read Karl Marx!
On his bicentenary Marx’s diagnosis of capitalism’s flaws is surprisingly relevant
A GOOD subtitle for a biography of Karl Marx would be “a study in failure”. Marx claimed that the point of philosophy was not just to understand the world but to improve it. Yet his philosophy changed it largely for the worst: the 40% of humanity who lived under Marxist regimes for much of the 20th century endured famines, gulags and party dictatorships. Marx thought his new dialectical science would allow him to predict the future as well as understand the present. Yet he failed to anticipate two of the biggest developments of the 20th century—the rise of fascism and the welfare state—and wrongly believed communism would take root in the most advanced economies. Today’s only successful self-styled Marxist regime is an enthusiastic practitioner of capitalism (or “socialism with Chinese characteristics”).
Yet for all his oversights, Marx remains a monumental figure.
md0 wrote:All I've ever heard was that he didn't know the first thing about economics, and inspired a movement that lead to some of the worst totalitarian regimes on the planet. I certainly never heard his name come up in any classes on economics. Literally the only time I've ever heard his name come up is in discussions about the rise of communism. Of course, I'm aware he IS talked about a lot in communist nations, that happen to also be famous for propaganda and dis-information. They're not exactly famous for valuing truth.
If I didn't know other US Americans, I would be tempted to excuse this much ignorance as resulting from the legacy of the red scare during the Cold War - but I never heard anything remotely like what I've quoted here before. I'm willing to bet that the only university anywhere in the western world that teaches sociology without Marx is Prager U, and that's not a university so that should say something.
I really don't think you are doing anything in good faith here. You made some points, people from all over the political spectrum engaged you, not just leftists but you didn't respond to any counter points. You are here just to rant against antifascism, so drop the pretences. Some people say we should engage trolls like you for the sake of the audience sitting on the fence about a given issue, but I don't think that going around in circles on the internet is productive political activity.
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