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Postby vijayjohn » 2017-10-04, 7:21

Same.

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby md0 » 2017-11-15, 11:11

Broadly transcribing, how would you pronounce the surname Bornkessel-Schlesewsky in English?
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby Dormouse559 » 2017-11-15, 16:15

Here's my pronunciation, having never heard the name before: /ˈbɔɹnˌkɛsəl ʃləˈsɛvski/
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby TeneReef » 2018-01-03, 13:48

YASSS :mrgreen:

Yes, that's the best’: Short front vowel lowering in English today: Young people across the anglophone world are changing their pronunciation of vowels according to a change which started in North America.
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-02-02, 6:11

md0 wrote:Broadly transcribing, how would you pronounce the surname Bornkessel-Schlesewsky in English?

I would guess [ˈbɔɹnkɛsɫ̩ ʃləˈzʉski] if I was talking to most native speakers of English here and/or if I had reason to believe he was actually American. Otherwise, I'd try to pronounce his name like in German. :P

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby alisha » 2018-04-05, 8:20

Rom wrote:I decided to start the "The How do you Pronounce X Thread" :D

How do you pronounce these words: hull, multi, golf, cult, difficult, insult, milk, silk, and vanella?

Here's how I pronounce them (if I transcribed them correctly at least :P ) :
hull [hV5]
multi [m5lti]
golf [gA5lf]

cult [kA5lt]
difficult [dIfIko5t]
insult [InsV5t]

milk [mE5k]
silk [sI5k]
vanella [vVnE5@]

I just noticed that I pronounce "cult" and "difficult" with different vowels, and vanilla differently then some people.

Hi,
Why did you put 5 in the middle of the word. Is that the way you pronounce them.

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby linguoboy » 2018-04-05, 16:02

Rom is using X-SAMPA in their transcriptions. In this system [5] represents a velarised alveolar lateral approximant or "dark l" (IPA [ɫ]).
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby md0 » 2018-11-21, 8:09

Broadly transcribing, how would you pronounce the Israeli name Nufar Sukenik in English? I'm particularly unsure about where the stress is in both parts.
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby linguoboy » 2018-11-21, 15:33

md0 wrote:Broadly transcribing, how would you pronounce the Israeli name Nufar Sukenik in English? I'm particularly unsure about where the stress is in both parts.

I think most English-speakers would be unsure as well. They tend to default to penultimate stress with foreign names, so I think you'd hear Núfar Sukénik.

I would give the given name final stress (since that's the default for Hebrew nouns and this looks like a name derived from one) and the family name initial stress (since it looks Slavic and that's a common pattern for Slavic surnames ending in -nik).
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby mōdgethanc » 2018-11-27, 11:41

I pronounced it /nuˈfɑr suˈkɛnɪk/ in my head since the first name sounds Hebrew but the surname doesn't.

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-10-09, 7:30

I usually have no idea how to pronounce foreign names in English. :lol:

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby md0 » 2019-10-09, 7:47

This could be a topic in itself, but since I mostly post in this thread to ask about the pronunciation of non-English names in English, instead of going to the origin language's subforum. I am strongly on the side of adapting foreign names in the receiving language's phonological and morphological system. Recently I've seen a few people "on my political side", especially in the Anglosphere, going against this.

Now that I moved abroad, I tell everyone I meet that I will accept a wide range of pronunciations for my name (as long as I can understand they referring to me), so they shouldn't worry. I was surprised they find it so hard though, because it's CV.CV.CCVC (Greek syllable structure) or CVC.VC.CVC (English syllable structure). It's not the easiest name, but I didn't expect it to be that hard either :lol:
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby vijayjohn » 2019-10-14, 5:36

Wait, English has CVC.VC? :hmm:

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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby md0 » 2019-10-14, 5:39

vijayjohn wrote:Wait, English has CVC.VC? :hmm:

That's how I hear English speakers segmenting my name, a bias for closed syllables :hmm:
I mean, it's necessary to get the [ε]'s in the first two syllables of Demetris, right?
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby Dormouse559 » 2019-10-14, 6:12

md0 wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Wait, English has CVC.VC? :hmm:

That's how I hear English speakers segmenting my name, a bias for closed syllables :hmm:
I mean, it's necessary to get the [ε]'s in the first two syllables of Demetris, right?

The first Anglicized pronunciation that comes to mind for "Demetris" is /dəˈmiː.tɹɪs/. Related English names (Demetrius, Demetria, Demeter) are pronounced that way.
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby md0 » 2019-10-14, 7:14

Dormouse559 wrote:
md0 wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Wait, English has CVC.VC? :hmm:

That's how I hear English speakers segmenting my name, a bias for closed syllables :hmm:
I mean, it's necessary to get the [ε]'s in the first two syllables of Demetris, right?

The first Anglicized pronunciation that comes to mind for "Demetris" is /dəˈmiː.tɹɪs/. Related English names (Demetrius, Demetria, Demeter) are pronounced that way.

I often get /dəˈmεtɹɪs/ and /dεˈmεtɹɪs/ (which is the one that has to has closed syllables, no?), because of spelling pronunciation. I will pay attention and see if anyone ever calls me Demetris with a long i actually, because it feels very rare.

Now, disclaimer, I'm mostly around other ESL speakers. I don't remember what was the last time I had to routinely talk with a native English speaker. It may be more than one year ago.
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Re: The How do you Pronounce X Thread

Postby Car » 2019-10-14, 9:29

This guy's first name definitely is pronounced with an /i:/ by Anglo commentators. There might be videos of him on YouTube, if you want to listen to it.
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