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Peadar wrote:The Dungan language is a collective name for some north-west Mandarin dialects, especially those spoken by the hanese muslims(or officially called 回族 huizu) among the turkic populations like Uigur, Kazakh and Kyrgyz.
One of them is even turklized grammartically. It's called the Tangwang dialect 唐汪話
OldBoring wrote:I think Dungan is only the language spoken by the Hui Chinese who moved to Central Asia in the Qing Dynasty, but I'm not sure either.
OldBoring wrote:哈 is sometimes xa sometimes xə... vowel harmony?
vijayjohn wrote:Peadar wrote:The Dungan language is a collective name for some north-west Mandarin dialects, especially those spoken by the hanese muslims(or officially called 回族 huizu) among the turkic populations like Uigur, Kazakh and Kyrgyz.
Do you have a source for this definition? Because I've never seen it anywhere. In any case, I think it's pretty clear that we're talking about something a lot more specific than just anything spoken in northwestern China.One of them is even turklized grammartically. It's called the Tangwang dialect 唐汪話
As interesting as all this information about Tangwang is, Tangwang AFAIK has nothing to do with Dungan. It's a mixed language combining Mandarin Chinese with Santa, which is Mongolic, not Turkic.
vijayjohn wrote:OldBoring wrote:I think Dungan is only the language spoken by the Hui Chinese who moved to Central Asia in the Qing Dynasty, but I'm not sure either.
Well, they also speak Russian.
vijayjohn wrote:vijayjohn wrote:OldBoring wrote:I think Dungan is only the language spoken by the Hui Chinese who moved to Central Asia in the Qing Dynasty, but I'm not sure either.
Well, they also speak Russian.
I only recently realized (I think in December) that I probably misunderstood what you meant here because I misread "only the" as "the only."
EDIT: I completely forgot about this channel and its three Dungan lesson books in both Cyrillic script and Chinese characters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j639tT3nPh8
OldBoring wrote:Yeah, I meant only the Hui who moved to Central Asia speak it, not all the Hui.
And btw, I'm still trying to understand what only at the end of the sentence means when used by Indians.
vijayjohn wrote:And btw, I'm still trying to understand what only at the end of the sentence means when used by Indians.
It either emphasizes what came just before it or means nothing at all only.
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