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linguoboy wrote:Discouraging conversation today with a long-distance friend.
He tried to start a conversation about the relationship of racism to the racial preferences people express when dating. At one point, I shared something an Arab friend told me once about being chatted up by people who thought he was Black and stopped speaking to him the moment they discovered he was Arab. He said maybe they were worried he was terrorist and termed that "racially motivated fear" as opposed to "racism."
I tried to talk more with him about this and it came out that he's one of those who equates "racism" with "white hoods". (He explicitly said as much.) I really get the feeling he's trying to excuse the unconscious racism in his milieu as not racism because racism makes you a racist and racists are bad people and he and his friends are not bad people so therefore they're not racists. I told him I'm interested in preventing discrimination, both conscious or unconscious, and he told me I sounded "hostile".
I really really wish folks in this country were as concerned with not being racist half as much as they are with not being called racist.
Prowler wrote:s for dating preferences when it comes to that... well it's a complex issue, but one that really makes you think. I'm gonna be very honest: Very rarely do I find a Black or Indian woman attractive. Dunno why that's the case. Maybe really deep down my mind there's a subtle racism or xenophobic feel telling me not to find them attractive?
Prowler wrote:I do understand that it must be frustrating to hear something like "I don't date Black men!" or "I don't date Asian men!". Why those women might automatically refuse to do so and why they aren't attracted to such men, I have no idea. Perhaps in some cases could be a deep down fear of society judging them harshly or their parents not accepting their bf? In other cases it might just be because they'd rather date a guy they have more in common with culturally.
Gadano wrote:I mean, can one be racist to his own race?
Yasna wrote:"Im Einklang mit der Regierungspropaganda erklären viele chinesische Gemeinden im Ausland, Gene, Kultur, Tradition und Geschäftssinn der Chinesen seien von solcher Überlegenheit, dass sie ihren Gastländern viel nützlicher seien als die "faulen Schwarzen" oder die "lästigen Muslime". "
linguoboy wrote:Some Asian immigrants are newly realising the limitations of pursuing the "model minority" strategy of allying themselves with white supremacy in the hopes that it will spare them: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/.
Yasna wrote:linguoboy wrote:Some Asian immigrants are newly realising the limitations of pursuing the "model minority" strategy of allying themselves with white supremacy in the hopes that it will spare them: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/12/donald-trump-deport-vietnam-war-refugees/577993/.
What did those Vietnamese immigrants do to ally themselves with "white supremacy"?
vijayjohn wrote:Late, but this topic has sort of come up before. A lot of Japanese people don't seem to be very well informed and certainly don't have the same context (as people in the US) regarding what's going on regarding race relations in the US, why cultural appropriation is problematic, etc. Sometimes, this leads to problems even within Japan, though.
md0 wrote:I maintain that, say, a Korean, and a Korean American are distinct and different ethnicities (or whatever term applies), and the political demands of a Korean and a Korean American qua cultural rights are unsurprisingly different.
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