Irish Study Group

[vijayjohn]

The answer key actually says cé as tusa?, but apparently, that was a typo on their part. Idk, I thought that was kind of interesting because of the discussion on this thread we had about that earlier.

They also say in the chapter that lenited forms of the propositional pronouns tend to be used, but they are spelled in the standard way (i.e. not lenited). So......

They do? Where?? EDIT: Which page?

Is as Scríob ó dhúchas é.

There's no is in this phrase (in the book).

But there should be, right?

No, it's optional. They say in the first sentence on p. 14 after the dialogue that you can say e.g. either is as ____ mé or just as _____ mé.

[księżycowy]

I did not see that.

[vijayjohn]

I still don't see the thing about lenited forms, either.

[księżycowy]

The bottom of pg 26.

[kevin]

EDIT: Oh, and in Munster, it's just cé as duit?.

"Cad as duit", I think.

Generally, "cé + preposition" is preferred in Connacht, "cad + preposition" in Munster and "cá + preposition" in Ulster.

[vijayjohn]

Oh, sorry, yes, cad as duit.

And thanks, księżycowy!

[księżycowy]

Unit 2

Exercise 3

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[In order]
mbéal
gContae
Meiriceá
dtreo
mo
ndeireadh
Londain (x2)

Exercise 4

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1. sna
2. sa
3. sa
4. sa
5. sa
6. sna
7. san

Exercise 5

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1. f
2. k
3. a
4. g
5. j
6. b
7. l
8. d
9. i
10. m
11. h
12. c
13. e

[vijayjohn]

For questions #3 and #4 in Exercise 4, the answer key says ar an instead of sa even though the directions say to use sa, san, or sna.

So I guess it's ar an gCnoc and ar an Tulaigh (instead of sa gCnoc and sa Tulaigh)?

[księżycowy]

As much as I love the dialogues, this textbook does kinda suck. Just saying.

[kevin]

So I guess it's ar an gCnoc and ar an Tulaigh (instead of sa gCnoc and sa Tulaigh)?

Unless it's a subterranean settlement, I guess.

[linguoboy]

So I guess it's ar an gCnoc and ar an Tulaigh (instead of sa gCnoc and sa Tulaigh)?

sa Chnoc in any case.

And if we’re doing proper Munster, ar an dTulaigh

[kevin]

They are doing proper Connacht at the moment, so eclipsis in sa gCnoc is correct.

[Lur]

I'm not gonna say anything useful, but this is both tempting and scary looking to me right now

[księżycowy]

Join us........

[silmeth]

No, it's optional. They say in the first sentence on p. 14 after the dialogue that you can say e.g. either is as ____ mé or just as _____ mé.

My impression is that the present copula is at the beginning of the sentence is optional basically always.

It doesn’t seem to me to be optional when it is in the middle (and acts as a direct relative copula), like in X is ainm dom or an rud is fearr though.

[księżycowy]

Interesting, I never knew that.

[linguoboy]

They are doing proper Connacht at the moment, so eclipsis in sa gCnoc is correct.

Gobh m' leithscíal! Comáinig libh!

[księżycowy]

Hey, I never complain about learning proper Munster grammar or vocabulary.

[vijayjohn]

"Comáinig"?

I'm not gonna say anything useful, but this is both tempting and scary looking to me right now

Irish has a way of being both tempting and scary.

[linguoboy]

"Comáinig"?

= Comáinidh