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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby OldBoring » 2018-11-03, 16:19

SomehowGeekyPolyglot wrote:
dEhiN wrote:En fait, je ne parle pas beaucoup de québécois. Je pratiquais le français parisien.


Ah... now dat explains a lot to mi. So yuh wan fi tak de Parisian way wit di others when yuh speak French, rite or no?

I'm confused. Is there a québécois dialect of English?
What you wrote reminds me of Jamaican.

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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-03, 16:32

OldBoring wrote:
SomehowGeekyPolyglot wrote:Ah... now dat explains a lot to mi. So yuh wan fi tak de Parisian way wit di others when yuh speak French, rite or no?

I'm confused. Is there a québécois dialect of English?
What you wrote reminds me of Jamaican.


If there is a Québécois dialect of English, at least I do not know it.
But I tried to make dEhiN talk to me in Canadian French. :yep:
However, it didn't work out, but no problem at all. :lol:

And yes, what I wrote basically was English with Caribbean influence, no matter if it is from Jamaica or also from another country close to it. The reason why I did so, and I suppose that he got the message :wink:, is that I really like both the African and the Caribbean way of speaking English.

However, someone recently told me that people from the Caribbean could also understand it differently. As in: they possibly could be under the impression that a foreigner who speaks it their way was mocking them or something similar. But that isn't my intention at all. Nevertheless, that hint really was helpful anyway, because now, I am paying even more attention to "when to use it and when not to use it".
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-05, 18:45

How do you call brainstorming when it is done by one person only?
However you call it... that first spin-off log (the language called communication) did trigger a lot of One Person Only Brain Storming. If I would post about all of those thoughts at once, then the thread would look like a plain information overload. So I am forcing myself to postpone many of those.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby linguoboy » 2018-11-05, 18:49

SomehowGeekyPolyglot wrote:How do you call brainstorming when it is done by one person only?

"brainstorming"

Honestly, until I investigated it just now, I didn't realise that it was consciously created as a group technique and that most definitions incorporate that. My boss could tell me "I want you to brainstorm ideas for new initiatives" and I wouldn't necessarily think they wanted me to work with others on that.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-06, 16:11

Another spin-off log (the link also explains the reason of opening a new one shortly after the previous one which is about Japanese):

SGP's Beyond Beginner's Swahili Log
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-07, 9:42

This still is my main log in the sense of being "the mother of all spin-off logs of mine". :D So when there are some updates that are important enough, I have a strong reason for posting them here.

Just spent, I kid you not, three hours or even more mostly thinking about the "new" language I am currently learning and posting (although not everything really is new to me, on the contrary, there also was a lot going on in the background, and it still is, you can think of connecting the dots and so on).

For the sake of easy accessibility, I would re-post the link in situations like these, rather than telling you to refer to a previous post or even the first one.

So here it is:

[Sort of a log] The language called communication
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-07, 12:53

Whenever a sufficient amount of topics has been covered in the [learning more about] "the language called communication" log, I intend to post a follow-up there (not here) which contains the direct links to all the new posts. I.e. all of those that haven't been mentioned yet in a previous link list also in that (not this) thread.

As for the first 33 ones (not counting sub-topics), that follow-up post already has been made. So it contains the direct links to all of those 33 topics, including their titles/descriptions of course. Because some of you possibly would only read this current post (in this thread, not in that one ;)) after a long time has passed, I still prefer linking to the "the language called communication" log's very first post, rather than to the current follow-up.

Do you know why? Because at its very beginning, there is now a link to the first direct link list anyway. In addition, I plan to add more of those link lists to its very beginning too, as soon as there were enough new posts that made me make a second, third or maybe even ... anything beyond ... link list:

The language called communication [first post, now containing the link to the direct link list/s of the topics that already have been covered]
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-08, 5:47

Because I didn't mention it up to now, this would be a more accurate language list of mine than the one found in my profile:

PT (pre-A1 - B1 / B2), IT (pre-A1 - B1 / B2), RO (pre-A1 - B1 / B1-B2), SV/DA/NO (pre-A1 - B1 / A2-B2), SWA (A2 / A2-B1), EO (pre-A1 - B1 / B1-B2), FR (A2-B1 / B2), ES (B1-B2), NL (A1-B1 / B2), AF (pre-A1 - B1 / B2), JP (pre-A1 - A1 / A1); EN-AFR/EN-CAR (B1 / B2); EN (C2), DE (nat.)

Now what does that mean?

Whenever there is a slash, this is simply tells us that whatever is before the slash is related to the listening/speaking ability, and whatever comes after it is about the reading/writing ability.

Other than (Standard Western) English and German, there is currently is just a single language without a slash, and this is Spanish. This is because in this particular case, these two pairs of abilities (listening/speaking and reading/writing) don't really differ.

EN-AFR/EN-CAR means African and Caribbean English.

Also I'd like you to note that since I started posting, while there were some minor rather small but still Major Significance changes to the list (which I only mentioned now for the first time), there weren't any other major changes to it.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-08, 10:48

Just posted an explanation of the purposes intended by the log named "the language called communication". Especially that log isn't being done because of myself only, far from it. It is also meant to provide a (maybe even major significance) opportunity of asking someone who is "less than half of a geek, but above zero" any communication-related questions within that thread's scope. Just as people with a "very mainstream background and perception" can tell others many things about communication that the others don't know yet to that extent, the same also applies the other way around, speaking of other things related to it.

For more details, you are more than welcome to read the current post.


https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56140&start=60#p1123757
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-08, 20:58

My number one language project log is in "no more output without input" mode from now on.

This means that without input, I am not continuing it at all. (This isn't related to being mean or anything, you can read about it in the link below). And whenever there is input, I agree to reply to it and to all possible follow-ups. But whenever the input is gone, I am also, again, ceasing to post anything in that specific log until there is some more.

For more details, including some reasons on why this could matter to you (yes, you) too, you can refer to this link:

https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?p=1123816#p1123815
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-09, 7:30

I used to like the idea of an in-depth advancement with both of Spanish and French, and even now, I still like this idea. Already have been pondering on how it could be done, because I would "need" to do both of it the same time. "Need" using quotation marks because while I really like both of them, I do not feel comfortable with calling them (or also, for example and for that matter, Dutch and Italian) something I that "I really need and I cannot live without". So in other words, I really am interested in advancing with both of them, and my way of learning [not trying to force anyone to do it the same :)] differs quite a lot from many others ways of it.

Having said that, I also feel the desire of advancing with all of my other learning list's languages (but to a lesser degree), and also taking an "at least a bit more in-depth" look at those of my "mental only list" which is about micro-learning. This is because I like being able to at least communicate a little more with others who don't have a common (shared) spoken language between them and me.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-09, 9:59

Important clarification about two recent posts of mine in the "The language called communication log"

I just realized that each of two recent posts in the log mentioned above contain a passage which could seem to contradict the other one. It even could seem as an intentional untrue statement. But this wasn't the case, and you can read about it in the link below. Besides, I also could have edited the two posts hoping that "nobody realized the possible contradiction anyway". But I am aiming for Maximum Degree Transparency instead.

https://forum.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56140&p=1123859#p1123859
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-09, 22:02

Taking a (possibly very long) break from logging now, but still fully available if there is input on my main project

I am taking a break from logging now while continuing to learn the languages on my list and micro-learn some others. Not sure about it yet, but that break really could last weeks or even months.

However, I still am fully available for my main project in case there is some new input. The link has been mentioned in my signature, so I am not repeating it right now :). Also, I fully intend to continue to answer PMs.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-10, 0:37

The reasons for the opening of my new "ask me any question" thread in the General Topics Subforum (yes, really!)

As I already mentioned in the previous post, I am taking a (possibly really long) break from logging now.

And I possibly will start asking a really great multitude of language-related questions in the specific subforums. They could be more than some of you could imagine even in their dreams :D. Not kidding at all.

But I also want to give back enough. Because of that, I opened the "ask me any question" thread. The link has been provided below. There, you also can read a bit more about what exactly I possibly could tell you if you ask me, and so on.

Because of wanting to give back enough: my (SomehowGeekyPolyglot's) "ask me any question" thread (yes, really!)
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby Luís » 2018-11-10, 9:40

SomehowGeekyPolyglot wrote:And I possibly will start asking a really great multitude of language-related questions in the specific subforums. They could be more than some of you could imagine even in their dreams :D. Not kidding at all.


In every language subforum, there's usually a generic thread for asking questions about the language. It's probably best if you post there instead of creating a new topic for every question, as that will increase the likelihood of getting a response.
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Re: [not really a TAC, but ... ] PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-10, 9:53

Luís wrote:
SomehowGeekyPolyglot wrote:And I possibly will start asking a really great multitude of language-related questions in the specific subforums. They could be more than some of you could imagine even in their dreams :D. Not kidding at all.


In every language subforum, there's usually a generic thread for asking questions about the language. It's probably best if you post there instead of creating a new topic for every question, as that will increase the likelihood of getting a response.


Now that is what I call an interesting clue :).
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Re: PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-17, 6:19

This is a certain project of mine I already have been sharing with some other people outside of the forum (if you can "share" a project :whistle: :D). So I'd really like to do it here, too:

[Sort of a log] SomehowGeekyPolyglot's/SGP's Creative Juices Language Question and Answer Research
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Re: PT RO IT FR ES SV DA NO SWA EO JP NL AF & language exchange offer in any of those

Postby langmon » 2018-11-22, 6:03

Why I didn't include Latin and (Standard) Arabic in my profile's list of languages up to now

There are two languages that I didn't include in my profile's list up to now, even if I already learned them in the past. They are Latin and Arabic.

As for Latin, I had been learning it for a few years a long time ago. And while it really helped with all of these five Romance linguae (ES, FR, IT, PT, RO), I am not actively able to use that Retro Italian :), in addition to my level of understanding written Latin also being below my level of understanding written Spanish and French.

And as for (Standard) Arabic, well, it is my second non-native C2 language even. This means that I am very grateful for already having reached that level a long, long time ago. But it is C2 according to my point of view, some others possibly wouldn't agree because I do not know some "jargon-esque" terms related to, for example, cooking, baking and carpentry :). However, the same also applies, although to a lesser degree, to English.

To me, not explicitly mentioning a language in the profile's list greatly differs from denying knowing it. In my point of view, simply not including it isn't a lie or anything like that, but just being silent on whether one knows it or not. In addition, the browser's window clearly states that we are here, i.e. in one particular forum. And within that framework, the language list being shown is, first and foremost, a language list related to one's activities in a particular forum. At least up to know, neither Latin nor Arabic were really related to my forum activities. However, I do feel like adding them to my list now for the Maximum Possible Degree of Transparency.

I could also add ancient Greek, but I only had been learning it for a rather short time, also, I forgot most of it.
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