vijayjohn wrote:It's also possible to make different folders, just in case you didn't already know.
I didn't already know, so this information is extremely helpful. Thanks, Vijay! Looks like I've got some archiving to do!
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vijayjohn wrote:It's also possible to make different folders, just in case you didn't already know.
linguoboy wrote:You mean the actual substantive part regarding the aid which I did or did not render unto you when asked? That's fair.
Luís wrote:linguoboy wrote:You mean the actual substantive part regarding the aid which I did or did not render unto you when asked? That's fair.
I don't really think dEhiN was singling you out there, but rather making a general statement that not many people seemed to be interested in the discussion. You actually did contribute to it.
dEhiN wrote: I believe even you only asked some questions regarding what our purpose is and stuff, but gave no actual suggestions of recourses you think would be appropriate.
Luís wrote:Regarding our inbox size,I don't know if other users are experiencing the same issues or not, but I guess it's possible to increase it a bit (after the database cleanup a couple of weeks ago, we should be able to afford it)
vijayjohn wrote:linguoboy wrote:[*] If someone can show me an easy method of archiving PMs offsite, I'd be chuffed.
Honestly, I pretty much end up copying them into a word processor and saving them on my hard drive, then immediately deleting the original copies from my inbox before it fills up to 100% capacity. (I have most of these PMs organized on my hard drive by the person I was having the exchange with).
linguoboy wrote:O HAI STEALTH EDIT!!1!Johanna wrote:Now you're saying that you really should have been paid or recognized for something you gave up on?
Maybe it's because I was brought up with Usenet netiquette, but I was always taught that if you're going to add something to your post after someone has responded to it, you tag it (I prefer "ETA", an abbreviation for "Edited To Add") so that you don't make it look like they ignored something you had originally said. It would be awful nice if some version of this netiquette were observed here--particularly by those allowed to edit posts without generating an automatic message indicating that the post has, in fact, been edited ex post facto.
It's a willful misrepresentation of my comments to say that I said I really should have been paid. As I said, I contributed the labour freely. Moreover, I haven't abandoned it, as evidenced by the fact that I'm still here.
Again, I find myself moved to ask: What's your purpose here? I personally think dEhiN capable of defending his own comments himself if he so chooses.
Johanna wrote:If someone has answered, however, there will be a note that says "last edited by [editor] at [time] when you edit it, and you can't delete it.
Johanna wrote:And yes, I freely admit that I forgot that last sentence and added it within a couple of minutes, something that is more of a typo to most people. But I guess that you have never ever ever ever corrected a small thing within a couple of minutes without going "Edit: typo..."?
linguoboy wrote:I am so beyond tired of all the gaslighting that goes on here.
Consultants get paid thousands of dollars to do the kind of facilitation work that I've been willing to do here for free.
Now you're saying that you really should have been paid or recognized for something you gave up on?
It's a willful misrepresentation of my comments to say that I said I really should have been paid. As I said, I contributed the labour freely.
Us admins and global mods, on the other hand, do not get a single cent for all the volunteer labour and time we put into UniLang.
Irrelevant. You admins really like to emphasize that you're not paid (never mind that the rest of us aren't, either, and put a lot of volunteer labor in our own ways into UniLang, too (...)). What the hell do you want, you want us to pay you now, too?! It's not good enough for you that you have the authority to kill off the whole forum if you want?
Of course we don't want you to pay us!
Aurinĭa wrote:That makes two of us then.
What is, IYHO, the difference between them that leads to your very different reactions?
Linguoboy, you (among others) have said repeatedly you want a change in how UL is moderated. So when we present a concrete case and ask what you think should be done, we are asking for what you think should be done. Not for you to present different options depending on what we want.
Aurinĭa wrote:Linguoboy, you (among others) have said repeatedly you want a change in how UL is moderated. So when we present a concrete case and ask what you think should be done, we are asking for what you think should be done. Not for you to present different options depending on what we want.
Luís wrote:What would your suggested action be for each of the goals you mention?
Aurinĭa wrote:Because that is what you reproach us for—that we don't take other users' opinion into account for deciding moderation issues.
linguoboy wrote:Johanna wrote:From what I can remember, you were very adamant that you didn't even want the job years ago. Specifically because of some of the grievances being brought up here.
I don't know what time you're thinking of here. I'm thinking of the time when we needed a new language moderator for the Celtic languages.
Aurinĭa wrote:atalarikt wrote:Some admins may also look for mods by themselves. That's how admins Luís chose me as the Indonesian/Malaysian subforum mod and Aurinĭa chose me as the AAPL subforum mod.
Language mods are chosen by consensus, so while an individual language mod may be suggested by a specific admin, they're not chosen by any single person, but by all admins. The admin who asks you whether you'd be interested or tells you your candidacy has been accepted may not be the one to originally suggest you, that's just a matter of who has he time to sort that out at that moment. I'd have to check who first suggested you, but that doesn't matter, as everyone agreed with your nomination.
But yes, a PM to the admins is the way to go.
vijayjohn wrote:Personally, the only ways I've ever heard of people becoming moderators here are:
1. by PMing the admins (and global mods, when they existed) and saying, "Can I be a moderator of X forum?" and
2. because the admins happened to notice them expressing interest in moderating a given forum X.
Of course, I don't know whether the process used to be different or not before I joined, though.
Car wrote:vijayjohn wrote:Personally, the only ways I've ever heard of people becoming moderators here are:
1. by PMing the admins (and global mods, when they existed) and saying, "Can I be a moderator of X forum?" and
2. because the admins happened to notice them expressing interest in moderating a given forum X.
Of course, I don't know whether the process used to be different or not before I joined, though.
And there's 3. We need a mod for a forum, come up with some users we think would be suitable, come to a consensus, ask the users. If they turn it down, we then consider other options.
Car wrote:vijayjohn wrote:Personally, the only ways I've ever heard of people becoming moderators here are:
1. by PMing the admins (and global mods, when they existed) and saying, "Can I be a moderator of X forum?" and
2. because the admins happened to notice them expressing interest in moderating a given forum X.
Of course, I don't know whether the process used to be different or not before I joined, though.
And there's 3. We need a mod for a forum, come up with some users we think would be suitable, come to a consensus, ask the users. If they turn it down, we then consider other options.
linguoboy wrote:linguoboy wrote:I don't know what time you're thinking of here. I'm thinking of the time when we needed a new language moderator for the Celtic languages.
BTW, this is another banner opportunity for increased transparency: Who gets asked to be a moderator and why? What are the qualifications and disqualifications? How is the final decision arrived at?
vijayjohn wrote:Personally, the only ways I've ever heard of people becoming moderators here are:
1. by PMing the admins (and global mods, when they existed) and saying, "Can I be a moderator of X forum?" and
2. because the admins happened to notice them expressing interest in moderating a given forum X.
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