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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-01-16, 3:17

a vu un animal blessé être acculé/se faire acculer (pas *...étant acculé...)

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-09, 17:26

to go/walk(/come) home = rentrer (pas *revenir)

-> to whisper = chuchoter (pas *chouchoter)

ressembler au français (pas *...le français)

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby le humble » 2016-07-25, 14:06

Bonjour à tous

Tout d'abord, je vous félicite d'avoir appris le français.

Etant français moi même, je suis très heureux de ne pas avoir à l'apprendre ! :D (car c'est très compliqué)

Si vous avez besoin d'un coup de main(aide), j'espère que je vous serai utile


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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby france-eesti » 2016-07-25, 14:48

Exactement :D et parfois, j'ai honte car quand je dois expliquer une règle en français, je ne suis pas toujours capable de le faire :cry: parce que je dis les choses par automatisme, mais je ne sais pas les expliquer.

Mais même les Français font beaucoup de fautes en français, alors il n'y a pas de honte à avoir, quand on l'étudie, à faire des fautes aussi :mrgreen:

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby le humble » 2016-07-25, 18:09

Salut france-eesti

je suis originaire de la Martinique, antillais né à Paris mais j'habite à la Réunion

et toi d'où es - tu (je vais tâcher (=essayer) de ne pas faire de fautes d'orthographe)?

Pourquoi aimes-tu étudier les langues "étrangères"?

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-03, 20:48

Merci, france-eesti et le humble ! :)

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-09-17, 6:06

Quelques mots et petites expressions en français de Teach Yourself Business French, pages 20 et 24 :

grateful = reconnaissant
price = le tarif
post = le courrier
looking forward to seeing you (in business correspondence) = dans l'attente de vous recevoir
to book, reserve = retenir
enclosure, e-mail attachment = PJ (Pièce Jointe)
delivery time = les délais de livraison
proposal = la proposition
cost = le frais
high (cost) = (frais) élevé
appliance, piece of equipment = l'appareil
out-of-date = périmé
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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby Luís » 2017-09-17, 9:47

vijayjohn wrote:enclosure = PJ (Pièce Jointe)


In the age of the Internet: (email) attachment.
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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-01-11, 4:09

Luís wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:enclosure = PJ (Pièce Jointe)


In the age of the Internet: (email) attachment.

Thanks, Luís! :)

Some more vocabulary for myself :P

to confirm = confirmer
comfortable = confortable

to reach = gagner
radial linkage (see what I mean about not knowing wtf they mean even in English?) = liaison radiale
to go = se rendre
to go to a location (outside of...) = se rendre dans une localité (hors de...)
There are some cases(?) = Il est des cas
affirmer = to affirm, to claim
commode = convenient
convenable = appropriate, correct, usable
to thunder = tonitruer
to ensnare, entangle, bog down = empêtrer
to send, dispatch = dépêcher
to whack, bash, thump = cogner
straight up (col) = cash (also means in cash)
to lie fallow = être en jachère
a goad (both lit and fig), (bee's) sting(er), (fig) stimulant = un aiguillon
to be a late convert = être converti sur le tard
obliged = tenu
dress, appearance = la tenue
corridor = le couloir
department store = le grand magasin (pl. les grand magasins (the point here is the spelling!))
sales department = le service commercial
in the opinion of; with, next to = auprès de
trade fair = la foire
pitch = l'emplacement
to mastermind, run (a stand) = animer
paperwork = la documentation
to derive = tirer
moreover = de plus
to lay out = aménager
to call (at the office) = passer
to place an order = passer une commande
to rival = concurrencer
leaflet, flyer = le dépliant
a sample, extract = un échantillon
accountant = l'expert-comptable
as far as...are concerned = dans les domaines de...
to take account of = tenir compte de
compared with/to = par rapport à
assistant = l'adjoint
to take the place of = se substituer à
warehouse = l'entrepôt
agent, dealer = le/la concessionnaire
industrial estate = la zone industrielle
until now = jusqu'à présent
premises = les locaux
chief accountant = le chef de comptabilité
overheads = les frais généraux

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby Prantsis » 2018-01-11, 19:30

vijayjohn wrote:There are some cases(?) = Il est des cas

"Il est" is just a more formal way to say "il y a". (Was this your problem?)

vijayjohn wrote:pl. les grand magasins (the point here is the spelling!)

It looks like a mistake.
There are many compounds where "grand" doesn't agree in gender: une grand-mère. In such cases, the agreement in number (with feminine nouns only) is not clear: des grand(s)-mères.
With masculine nouns, it always agrees: des grands-pères.
And when it's not a 'real' compound, as far as I know, it always agrees: des grandes halles, des grands magasins.

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby JackFrost » 2018-01-12, 0:56

vijayjohn wrote:to go to a location (outside of...) = se rendre dans une localité (hors de...)

"Localité" means an habited place like village and town. What you might be looking for is lieu, endroit, emplacement, place.

to thunder = tonitruer

Or more commonly (to me maybe), tonner.

department store = le grand magasin (pl. les grand magasins (the point here is the spelling!))

A stated above, it's wrong. The adjective has to agree with number.

sales department = le service commercial

Or service vente.

pitch = l'emplacement

?

paperwork = la documentation

Or paperasse.

accountant = l'expert-comptable

Or just comptable. Expert means the person is certified or something.

as far as...are concerned = dans les domaines de...

? It's more like en ce qui concerne, d'après, selon... Ex. : as far as I am concerned, en ce qui me concerne. Dans les domaines de means something like in the field of, in the domain of...

chief accountant = le chef de comptabilité

No, it's more like chef comptable.
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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2018-09-03, 7:07

Merci pour votre aide !
Prantsis wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:There are some cases(?) = Il est des cas

"Il est" is just a more formal way to say "il y a". (Was this your problem?)

Yep, thanks! :)
vijayjohn wrote:pl. les grand magasins (the point here is the spelling!)

It looks like a mistake.

JackFrost wrote:A stated above, it's wrong. The adjective has to agree with number.

You're both right, of course. That was just a brainfart on my part.
vijayjohn wrote:to go to a location (outside of...) = se rendre dans une localité (hors de...)

"Localité" means an habited place like village and town. What you might be looking for is lieu, endroit, emplacement, place.

Actually, it may be my translation into English that's wrong (I'm not really sure how else to translate it into English); the French phrase in this case comes from an old article in Le Figaro. In this particular example, what I'm trying to quiz myself on is partly the verb se rendre (in the sense of 'to go') and especially the use of the preposition dans here (I would've guessed à by default, but it seems that se rendre does take dans in the sense of 'to make one's way (to a place)').
to thunder = tonitruer

Or more commonly (to me maybe), tonner.

Yes, of course; I'm familiar with tonner, too. That's why I'm not quizzing myself on that verb. ;) I found tonitruer in another French newspaper article and am trying to quiz myself on it since I'd never seen it before.
pitch = l'emplacement

?

This is what I get for trying to learn French words from a British phrasebook written in the 80s. :lol: I think they might just mean 'site'. (I would give you the context, but all of the vocabulary in this post is from Teach Yourself Business French, and I'm afraid the context in this case would probably just make it even more confusing :P).
as far as...are concerned = dans les domaines de...

? It's more like en ce qui concerne, d'après, selon... Ex. : as far as I am concerned, en ce qui me concerne. Dans les domaines de means something like in the field of, in the domain of...

This is probably just another awkward effect of me trying to make sense of what the book's saying. They translate dans les domaines de... into English as 'where ... are concerned'. This time I will provide the context where they use this phrase:

L'acheteur de biens de consommation doit connaître les produits de ses concurrents, surtout dans les domaines de la qualité et des prix.

if 'in the domains of' is a valid translation into English here, I'm not sure why they felt the need to translate it. Oh, well, who knows! :P
chief accountant = le chef de comptabilité

No, it's more like chef comptable.

I looked this up, and apparently, it's some term that used to be used in France but isn't anymore.




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il ne faut (...) ni...ni...(ni...ni...etc.)

number of members = l'effectif
stock, share = l'action
to hold (shares) = détenir
in equal parts = en parts égales
in recent years = ces dernières années
manufacture = la fabrication
to undertake, be committed to = s'engager à
aim = l'objectif
profit = le bénéfice
workstation = le poste de travail
filing cabinet = le classeur
cupboard = le placard
to increase = accroître
to hold on tight = s'accrocher
closed up = renfermé
necessarily = forcément
(The next two words come from r/france)
to overthrow = destituer
ready, set, go = prêt, feu, partez
(And the rest are from La princesse de Clèves)
brilliance = l'éclat
the art of training and riding horses = le manège
to sport, wear = arborer
to be fond of = affectionner
coat of arms = le blason
seal (pattern, design) = le sceau

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby langmon » 2018-11-16, 8:13

vijayjohn wrote:workstation = le poste de travail


So it is the station of work.

vijayjohn wrote:to sport, wear = arborer


Keeps reminding me of l'arbre

How do _you_ (i.e. vijayjohn) personally use these spoiler tags for repetition or anything else?

And do you also use them the other way around (FR -> EN)?
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Postby vijayjohn » 2022-02-16, 1:29

langmon wrote:How do _you_ (i.e. vijayjohn) personally use these spoiler tags for repetition or anything else?

Like flashcards. I try to guess what the equivalent in the target language is, then hover over the part in spoiler tags with my mouse to see whether I was right.
And do you also use them the other way around (FR -> EN)?

Yes, I did that earlier in this thread, too, though not very often.

s'asseoit trop = sits down too many times/too often
rester trop assis(e) = to sit down too much, i.e. stay seated too long/often

The first ten of these vocabulary items are from LangMedia's "Language By Country" series, specifically the parts about greetings in each of various Francophone countries, including Senegal where some of the conversations are almost entirely in Wolof. The next ten are from two GLOSS lessons called "A Place of Leisure" and "Banking FAQ":

le DEA (diplôme d'études approfondies) - tertiary education degree higher than a master's but lower than a doctorate
passer un coup de fil - téléphoner
le locataire - tenant
emménager - to move in
enlever la saleté de - get the dirt out of
l'étang - pond (totally forgot this word, haven't seen it in years, and definitely did not expect to learn that 'I have to get the dirt out of my pond' is a phrase you might hear casually in Luxembourg!)
le congé - holiday, leave
(je suis toujours en congé,) je reprends le dix - I'm going back (to work) on the tenth
tatie - auntie
n'im… port…e quoi ! - what you just said is absolutely bonkers! (see here)
station thermale - spa
verdoyant - verdant
se ressourcer - to recharge your batteries (idiomatically)
le séjour en amoureux - romantic getaway
l'accompagnant non-curiste - non-spa guest
sur place - on site
le majeur - adult
en tant que - as (a/an)
le particulier - individual
constater - to notice

Apparently, Moroccans still use the passé simple when speaking French!

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby Dormouse559 » 2022-02-16, 15:57

vijayjohn wrote:s'asseoit trop = sits down too many times/too often

This should be s'assoit or s'asseoir. Only the infinitive is written with <eoi> because of course it is :P

constater - to notice

This can also mean "to state", "to note" or "to observe"; it regularly comes up in dialogue tags.

Apparently, Moroccans still use the passé simple when speaking French!

:shock: Well, aren't they fancy‽
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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2022-02-17, 21:42

Dormouse559 wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:s'asseoit trop = sits down too many times/too often

This should be s'assoit or s'asseoir. Only the infinitive is written with <eoi> because of course it is :P

Oops! I meant s'assoit, thanks! (Of course I would make a mistake like that :lol:).
Apparently, Moroccans still use the passé simple when speaking French!

:shock: Well, aren't they fancy‽

Tbh, now that I've thought about it a bit, I guess I'm not that surprised. FWIU French in Morocco is like English in India: it's inherently a class marker, so being fancy is largely the point! Also, things that change or become archaic in France or the UK are often preserved in their former colonies. I have a feeling, for example, that I've seen both shall and shan't much more often in Indian English than in American or British English.

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Re: vijayjohn - français

Postby vijayjohn » 2022-02-20, 19:43

s'assoit, pas *s'asseoit

tous ceux qui, pas *tous qui

apparemment, pas *apparamment


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