vijayjohn wrote:Basically IIRC, me, him, etc. are the default forms of those pronouns in English anyway whereas I, he, etc. occur only with (usually before) finite verbs/auxiliaries for probably most English-speakers.
Thanks! I wish English pronouns were taught this way.
Instead, all English courses make them look like pronouns in Romance languages and say that
I,
he etc. are subject, while
me,
him, etc. are object.
linguoboy wrote:But who says that "me" is exclusively an object form?
Like I said, all English courses. So based on that, we learners (or us learners?) say "I and you". Or "She and we".
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This reminds me that only recently I found out
lui, lei, loro as subjects are accepted by grammars. When I studied grammar in primary school, only
egli, ella, essi were considered correct as subjects.
And then I found that courses of Italian as L2 don't teach the latter group at all!
Same thing for plural clitic "gli".
"Essi sono i miei genitori. Voglio loro tanto bene." sounds so clumsy.
But I can imagine myself writing this kind of sentence in school essays, or if I were to write a novel; and I probably said it during oral exams at school when in Italy.