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mōdgethanc wrote:As I already said somewhere, gender roles are not the same thing as genders.
mōdgethanc wrote:As I already said somewhere, gender roles are not the same thing as genders.
Sol Invictus wrote:mōdgethanc wrote:As I already said somewhere, gender roles are not the same thing as genders.
Wikipedia's definition of gender: Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or intersex), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity.
Why do you keep insisting that, if person has no strong gender identity and doesn't like gender roles, they must still pick gender based on their sex?
Lur wrote:mōdgethanc wrote:As I already said somewhere, gender roles are not the same thing as genders.
I've noticed some cis people switch quickly to talk about gender roles when their cisness comes up, but trans people initially avoid the topic. (At least the adults, trans children live a different situation.)
Bijlee wrote:I clicked agender, genderless, and genderqueer going only off what definitions said. I'm female, but I don't really behave very feminine or have particularly feminine interests (nor masculine interests for that matter. At least I don't think so.). I've never really "felt" like a woman, nor anything else (although, sometimes I wish I were born a male).
I might have some level of dysphoria, but I still intend on calling myself a woman because it will cause me less trouble. I don't feel comfortable using these labels personally, nor do I feel the need to find myself a certain gender category. I'd simply rather not have people presume I do this or like that just 'cause I'm female.
I think gender would be something I never thought about and I'd just fine with my sex being female if it weren't for stereotypes/ sexism. Though maybe I just don't understand how it is that you identify with a gender.
Sol Invictus wrote:Why do you keep insisting that, if person has no strong gender identity and doesn't like gender roles, they must still pick gender based on their sex?
vijayjohn wrote:Sol Invictus wrote:Why do you keep insisting that, if person has no strong gender identity and doesn't like gender roles, they must still pick gender based on their sex?
What? Who ever said that?
Lauren wrote:Hoogstwaarschijnlijk, your "theory" has the same problem, not everyone is on the feminine-masculine spectrum.
I'm genderfluid. I'm mostly agender but sometimes a little feminine, so only sometimes am I on the "spectrum".
Hoogstwaarschijnlijk wrote:Lauren wrote:Hoogstwaarschijnlijk, your "theory" has the same problem, not everyone is on the feminine-masculine spectrum.
I'm genderfluid. I'm mostly agender but sometimes a little feminine, so only sometimes am I on the "spectrum".
Good point. I could say that then you're moving around in the middle of the cube, but it would still be a spectrum based on a contradiction between masculine and feminine. I need to keep thinking it through some more.
Sol Invictus wrote:vijayjohn wrote:Sol Invictus wrote:Why do you keep insisting that, if person has no strong gender identity and doesn't like gender roles, they must still pick gender based on their sex?
What? Who ever said that?
The general mood in this thread strongly implies that
Lauren wrote:Sol Invictus wrote:vijayjohn wrote:Sol Invictus wrote:Why do you keep insisting that, if person has no strong gender identity and doesn't like gender roles, they must still pick gender based on their sex?
What? Who ever said that?
The general mood in this thread strongly implies that
Where the fuck are you getting that idea? I have a penis but am not a man or masculine at all like some think I should be. We're just saying that people are confusing gender identity and gender roles, as cis people are wont to do.
razlem wrote:Why is it important to have a gender identity? I'm not sure I understand how it benefits anyone.
razlem wrote:Why is it important to have a gender identity? I'm not sure I understand how it benefits anyone.
Lauren wrote:Not being trans/NB you obviously don't understand
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