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Seto

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-03-23, 23:56

The least known among the Finnic languages, very similar to Võro:

http://www.setoinstituut.ee/

Seto: Kõik inemiseq sünnüseq avvo ja õiguisi poolõst ütesugumaidsist. Näile om annõt mudsu ja süämetun'stus ja nä piät ütstõõsõga vele muudu läbi kjauma.

Võro: Kõik inemiseq sünnüseq avvo ja õiguisi poolõst ütesugumaidsis. Näile om annõt mudsu ja süämetunnistus ja nä piät ütstõõsõga vele muudu läbi käümä.

(English: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood).

The difference between the two languages is very slight

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Re: Seto

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-03-24, 1:52

Massimiliano B wrote:The least known among the Finnic languages, very similar to Võro:

http://www.setoinstituut.ee/

Seto: Kõik inemiseq sünnüseq avvo ja õiguisi poolõst ütesugumaidsist. Näile om annõt mudsu ja süämetun'stus ja nä piät ütstõõsõga vele muudu läbi kjauma.

Võro: Kõik inemiseq sünnüseq avvo ja õiguisi poolõst ütesugumaidsis. Näile om annõt mudsu ja süämetunnistus ja nä piät ütstõõsõga vele muudu läbi käümä.

(English: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood).

The difference between the two languages is very slight

There is a small dictionary/glossary of Seto (Seto to Estonian and Estonian to Seto) available online: Seto Sõnastik.

Seto is often considered a southeastern dialect of Võro. There is a dialect continuum and the differences are extremely small. To illustrate how similar Seto and Võro can be, the example quote above shows a lot of similarities, but even so it actually exaggerates the differences a bit!

For example, two translations above seem to indicate that Seto uses the word kjauma while Võro uses käümä. I was surprised by that and so I looked up both words (käümä and kjauma) in the Seto Sõnastik as well as in the Võro dictionary that I typically use (the Võro Instituut's Synaq).
The Seto Sõnastik does have an entry for kjauma (spelled as ḱauma), but that entry simply says "see käümä". Likewise, the Võro dictionary lists both k'auma and kjauma as synonyms for käümä in Võro as well. In other words, both kjauma and käümä are used in both the Seto dialect/language as well as in Võro. So, they don't represent a difference between them.

But whether Seto is a dialect of Võro or a separate language, it exists, has speakers, and is interesting! In addition to the Seto Sõnastik linked above, you can also hear audio samples of spoken Seto (from the villages of Podmotsa, Vaartsi, Kosselka and Serga) here: EKI Fonoteek

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Re: Seto

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-03-24, 4:31

Here is an excerpt from The Little Prince in Seto:

Oh mu tsillokõnõ prints! Nii saigi ma veitsipite tiidä' su väikost hallõst elost. Pikkä aigu olõ-s sul muud meelelahutust ku kaia' ilosit pääväminekit. Tuust sai ma tiidä' viil neländämä päävä hummogu, ku sa ütli': "Mullõ veiga miildüse' pääväminengu'."

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Re: Seto

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-03-24, 10:10

Thank you for the informations, Linguaphile!

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Re: Seto

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-05-26, 4:54

Numbers in Setu (+ Võro).

0 = nulľ
1 = üťs (ütś)
2 = kaťs (katś)
3 = kolm
4 = neli
5 = viiś
6 = kuuś
7 = säidse
8 = katõsa
9 = ütesä

10 = kümme

11 = üťstõiśskümme (ütśtõistkümme)
12 = kaťstõiśskümme (katśtõistkümme)
13 = kolmtõiśskümme (kolmtõistkümme)

20 = kaťskümmend (katśkümmend)
21 = kaťskümmend üťs (katśkümmend ütś)
22 = kaťskümmend kaťs (katśkümmend katś)

30 = kolmkümmend
31 = kolmkümmend üťs (kolmkümmend ütś)
32 = kolmkümmend kaťs (kolmkümmend katś)

40 = neľlikümmend (nelikümmend)
50 = viiśkümmend
60 = kuuśkümmend
70 = säidsekümmend
80 = katõsakümmend
90 = ütesäkümmend

100 = sada

1000 = tuhat

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Re: Seto

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-05-28, 16:57

Colors:

valgõ = white
sinine = blue
rohiline = haľass = green
kõllanõ = yellow
pihlõnõ = orantś = orange
verrev = red
punanõ = tummõverrev = reddish-brown
pruuń = brown
must = black
hahk = grey
heleverrev = roosa = pink

hõpõ = silver
kullanõ = gold

hellesinine = light blue
tummõsinine = dark blue

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Re: Seto

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-06-19, 22:43

Parts of the body:

pää = head
nägo = face
hiusõ = hair
silm = eye
nõ̭na = nose
suu = mouth
huuľ = lip
kiiľ = tongue
kõrv = ear
kaal = neck (front)
kukro = neck (back)
olg = shoulder
künnäŕpää = elbow
käsi = hand, arm
sõrḿ = finger
päkk = thumb
säľg = back
rind = chest
nisa = breast
kõtt = stomach
jalga = foot, leg
põľv = knee
nahk = iho = skin
lihas = muscle
süä = heart
ajo = brain
täü = lung


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