Erzya and Moksha

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Erzya and Moksha

Postby Æxylis » 2010-01-19, 11:57

I was looking up some information about cases online and it seemed that a lot of them showed up in this language Erzya. I didn't realize at the time that it was a Finno-Ugric language. Needlesstosay, I became interested, unfortunately, it's difficult to find any resources for it. I don't mind reading through russian books if I have to as some are laid out in such a way that it's easy to find what you're looking for even if you don't know any Russian. I have searched through uz and have found one resource, but have not figured out how to download the thing off the filehosting site in russian. :oops:
Anyway, if you know of any good resources, that would be neat. At the very least, I'd like to find out a bit about its grammar.
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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Varislintu » 2010-01-19, 15:33

If this uz file is illegal, then you can't discuss how to get your hands on it on Unilang. Not publically. Unilang can get in trouble if we promote illegal filesharing.
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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Æxylis » 2010-01-19, 18:48

sorry varis, I didn't think about that. I don't really care how or where I get the resources from really, I just think it'd be an interesting thing to learn about. There really ought to be easier ways to find stuff to use to study languages out there. :?
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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby chung » 2012-03-30, 14:59

I stumbled upon this collection of links for Erzya by the linguist, Jack Rueter including a a series of handouts and audio files used for a short course in Erzya given at the University of Helsinki in 2006. If you're ambitious enough (and your Finnish is good enough to understand the explanations), you can probably use this material as a primer in the language.

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Serge » 2013-04-23, 13:30

Russian-Moksha-Erzya Dic. http://yadi.sk/d/LLqAckxs4Hgnq

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Massimiliano B » 2018-03-13, 0:23



The Introductory Course of the Erzya Language is very good!

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby h34 » 2018-06-12, 15:50

Cardinal numbers

Moksha | Erzya:

1 фкя | вейке
2 кафта | кавто
3 колма | колмо
4 ниле | ниле
5 вете | вете
6 кота | кото
7 сисем | сисем
8 кафкса | кавксо
9 вейхкса | вейксэ

10 кемонь | кемень

11 кефкие | кевейкее
12 кемгавтува | кемгавтово
13 кемголмува | кемголмово
14 кемнилие | кемнилее
15 кеветие | кеветее
16 кемготува | кемготово
17 кемзисемге | кемзисемге
18 кемгафксува | кемгавксово
19 кевейхксые | кевейксэе

20 комсь | комсь

30 колмогемонь | колмоньгемень
40 нильгемонь | ниленьгемень
50 ведьгемонь | ведьгемень
60 кодгемонь | кодгемень
70 сизьгемонь | сизьгемень
80 кафксогемонь | кавксоньгемень
90 вейксогемонь | вейксэньгемень

100 сяда | сядо

200 кафта сядт | кавтосядт
300 колма сядт | колмосядт
...

1000 тёжянь | тёжа
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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby h34 » 2018-08-12, 15:33

Vegetation

Moksha
Erzya
= English

вирь (vir)
вирь (vir')
= forest
шуфта (šufta)
чувто (čuvto)
= tree
келу (kelu)
килей (kilej)
= birch
пиче (piče)
пиче (piče)
= pine
куз (kuz)
куз (kuz)
= fir, spruce
тума (tuma)
тумо (tumo)
= oak
иса, каль (isa, kal')
каль (kal')
= willow
пою (poju)
пой (poj)
= aspen
пизелкс (pizelks)
пизёлкс (pizёlks)
= mountain ash, rowan
уштор (uštor)
укштор (ukštor)
= maple
лаймарькс (lajmar'ks)
лемзёркс (lemzёrks)
= bird cherry
пяше (pjaše)
пекше (pekše)
= linden tree
кусторкст (kustorkst)
куракш (kurakš)
= shrub, bush
имож (imož)
умарь, мастумарь (umar', mastumar')
= berry
шукшторукс (šukštoruks)
шукшторов (šukštorov)
= currant
тише (tiše)
тикше (tikše)
= grass
панчф (pančf)
панжовкс, цеця (panžovks, cecja)
= flower
ункс (unks)
ундокс, юр (undoks, jur)
= root
тарад (tarad)
тарад (tarad)
= branch, twig
лопа (lopa)
лопа (lopa)
= leaf
пичемарь (pičemar')
пичеумарь (pičeumar')
= pine cone
кузмарь (kuzmar')
кузумарь (kuzumar')
= fir cone, spruce cone
пяште (pjašte)
пеште (pešte)
= nut
панга (panga)
панго (pango)
= mushroom

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby h34 » 2018-08-26, 20:16

Bodies of water

Moksha
Erzya
= en

ведь / ved'
ведь / ved'
= water
ушедкс, юр / ušedks, jur :?:
ушодкс, юр / ušodks, jur :?:
= spring, well
шудерькс / šuder'ks
шудикерькс / šudiker'ks
= stream
ляй / ljaj
лей / lej
= river
эрьхке / er'hke
эрьке / er'ke
= lake
ведьлотка / ved'lotka
ведьлатко / ved'latko
= pond, reservoir
ведень прама васта / veden' prama vasta
ведень прамo, ведьпрамо / veden' pramo, ved'pramo
= waterfall
ляень прама васта / ljaen prama vasta
лейпрамо / lejpramo
= river mouth
търва / t"rva
чире / čire
= shore, coast
моря / morja
иневедь / ineved'
= sea
цёнга / cёnga
усия / usija
= island
менельпе / menel'pe
менельпе / menel'pe
= horizon

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-09-05, 4:32

Declension of 'виресь' (forest) in Erzya

Singular forms
Nominative definite: виресь
Nominative indefinite: вирь
Genitive: виренть
Ablative: вирденть
Translative: вирексэнть
Abessive: виртементь
Prolative: вирьганть

Plural forms
Nominative definite: виртне
Nominative indefinite: вирть
Genitive: виртнень
Illative: виртнес
Inessive: виртнесэ
Elative: виртнестэ
Ablative: виртнеде
Translative: виртнекс
Abessive: виртневтеме
Comitative: виртненек
Lative: виртнев
Prolative: виртнева

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Re: Erzya and Moksha

Postby Linguaphile » 2018-09-06, 0:23

Declension of ‘вирь’ (forest) in Moksha

Singular forms
Nominative definite: вирсь
Nominative indefinite: вирь
Genitive definite: вирть
Genitive indefinite: вирень
Dative definite: вирти
Dative indefinite: виренди
Ablative indefinite: вирьда
Inessive indefinite: вирьса
Elative indefinite: вирьста
Illative indefinite: вирьс
Prolative indefinite: вирьге
Comparative indefinite: вирьшка
Translative indefinite: вирькс
Abessive indefinite: вирьфтома
Causative indefinite: виренкса

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