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A nice online course

Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-01-30, 10:38

http://www4.ur.se/gulahalan/

You can either do it online for free or order it as a book + CD course.

It does not run correctly in Mozilla Firefox and other decent browsers though, you have to use Micro$oft Internet Explorer to get it displayed as it was intended.

They don't give the price of the book on the website, but I have just written a mail to inquire, so I can tell you :)
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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-02-05, 10:40

Another interesting online course from the same source:
http://www.ur.se/ur/sok/frameset_web.html?/samasta

This is Lule Saami! This dialect is spoken south of the North-Saami area, in northern Sweden. (Northern Saami or Davvi Sámegiella is spoken in Norway north of Narvik, north of Kiruna in Sweden and in the North of Finland, apart from the Inari area.)

Northen Saami is the most active dialect nowadays, but Lule is its close neighbour, so it might be interesting as well. The spelling is a bit different, and lots of phrases seem to be completely different, but that's typical for everyday phrases (greetings etc.) in every language with regional variants. The basic grammar seems to be rather similar.
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newbie

Postby raoul2 » 2007-02-19, 20:41

I have just started learning Sami with gulahalan. I would love to visit Lappland (next year if I am rich enough). I am a frenchman attracted to non-indoeuropean languages.

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-02-19, 21:14

Bonsoir! :) I've been learning Sámi for a while and it is a really beautiful language.
Feel free to have a look around the forum, maybe there is something useful here for you. I will post more info soon, but I'm busy with some other languages at the moment.
If you are interested in non-indoeuropean languages, what about Greenlandic -> this way please http://home.unilang.org/main/forum/viewforum.php?f=105 ;)
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Postby Steisi » 2007-02-19, 22:34

Hahah let's hustle all the Sami learners into the Greenlandic place :lol: If you're in for one "snowy" language you might as well learn them all ;)

Welcome, by the way, raoul :D
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Postby oahppi » 2007-02-20, 16:34

Hello.
I join the group of learners. Thanks a lot nighean-neonach for the english traductions, it is very helpful.

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Bartens' handbook

Postby raoul2 » 2007-05-19, 8:12

I managed to find Bartens' Handbuch der saamischen sprache from an internet bookstore. It seems to be the only good handbook that is not written in a scandinavian language (my danish is very poor). There used to be a copy in a library in Paris but it seems to have been stolen.
I am completing lesson 2.

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Look what I found! :D

Postby Steisi » 2007-08-06, 11:28

Here lies a dictionary:

http://www.risten.no/exist/risten/index.html

Enjoy :D
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Sammallahti's intro to Saami languages

Postby Steisi » 2007-08-08, 12:46

..is great :waytogo:

I was just reading about the disguised speech of the Sámi and it's really amazing. Reindeer herding must be boring ;)

But the book is great, contains lots of grammar, tons of phonology and a good vocab at the back of the book. Worth a look :yep:
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Postby E}{pugnator » 2007-08-08, 20:42

Which language is it written in?
Learning Georgian, Mandarin Chinese, Russian and Papiamentu from scratch. Trying to brush up my Norwegian up to an advanced level.

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Postby Steisi » 2007-08-09, 5:56

English :yep: I'm sure you can get a Finnish translation if you really want though ;)
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Postby E}{pugnator » 2007-08-09, 21:19

Hahaha! Would be great to have a Finnish translation
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Postby Steisi » 2007-08-10, 6:30

:eekk: :totalshock: What have you done with the real Expug? :preach:
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Postby Steisi » 2007-09-03, 7:44

Here are some links I got from the pages of the Sámi parliament on the Sámi languages:

Language resources

NRK-Sámi radio Giellačiehka - Sámi radio.
http://www.nrk.no/kanal/nrk_sami_radio/ardna/1.1667509

Opi pohjoissaamen äänteet ja kirjaimet - Learn Northern Sámi sounds and letters(Norwegian)
http://www.infonuorra.no/article.php?articleID=8204&PHPSESSID=966e5310c277416832058a5a7cbcdf1d

Saamenkielinen lakitietokanta/ Norja - law stuff - english, norwegian, sámi
http://www.lagat.no/

Sameloven/Sámelahka /L56/1987, kielisäännökset lisätty vuonna 1990 lukuun 3), Norja "grammar rules"? - Norwegian
http://www.lovdata.no/all/nl-19870612-056.html

Samisk ordbok (norsk-samisk),Rolf Olsen - Sámi Dictionary
http://www.kafjord.kommune.no/getfile.php/13701.136/SOrdbok.pdf

Gulahalan - opi pohjoissaamea netissä - Learn Northern Sámi online (Probably available in norwegian rather than finnish) - currently under construction.
http://www.gulahalan.sapmi.net/

Álgu Saamelaiskielten etymologinen tietokanta
http://kaino.kotus.fi/algu/index.php?t=etusivu&kkieli=fi


General publications:


The Saami Languages: the present and the future (2001)
http://209.200.101.189/publications/csq/csq-article.cfm?id=1294

Kotimaisten kielten tutkimuskeskus/ Forskningscentralen för de inhemska språken (Finnish, Swedish, English) - Domestic language research centre (Finland)
http://www.kotus.fi/

Nordterm - http://www.nordterm.net/ - multilingual - for working in Northern countries.

Sanastokeskus TSK ry (available in Finnish, Swedish, English) - general bookstore for linguistic terminology.
http://www.tsk.fi/en/index.html
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Some reading practice (links)

Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-11-09, 11:36

http://skuvla.info/index-e.htm

Scroll down a bit to find links to the Norwegian and Sámi versions of the stories in those books.
I opened them in two browser windows next to each other and tried reading a bit, comparing the Sámi with the norsk text :) It's great fun, even if you are not so advanced yet as to understand all the grammatical patterns, but it's useful for collecting new vocabulary.
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Cute little site for practicing

Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-11-10, 23:46

http://www.davvi.no/eGirji/index.php?s=07

Click on the first "eGirji" which is linked below the first heading "Boađe mu mielde".
This site actually goes with a schoolbook, so you will need some knowledge of basic vocabulary and grammar to work through it successfully. But it is really lovely and very encouraging :)
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Postby juronjaure » 2007-11-13, 17:07

Thanks a lot! I guess it'll bring back my motivation to learn sámi :)
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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-11-13, 20:28

Hey, schön dich zu sehen :) Ich bin ja immer schon ganz frustriert, weil es anscheinend niiiiiemanden gibt, der Samisch lernt. Ich habe mir neulich ein paar ganz tolle Kinderbücher bestellt, falls du Interesse hast, kannst du mir ja mal schreiben ;)
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Postby Steisi » 2007-11-13, 21:08

Ich lerne es immer! :yeah!:
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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-11-13, 21:29

Super :D

Mot manná? Oahpat go don sámegiela? Logat go girjjiid? Mus leat cábbát mánáid-girjit sámegillii, háliidat go don daid lohkat? ;)
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