some introduction / beginners' lesson / whatever part 1

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Postby gothwolf » 2007-01-27, 16:49

nighean-neonach wrote:Didn't your mum teach you how to ask for things? ;) :twisted:


- No 8)

nighean-neonach wrote:Stacy and I are sort of exchanging stuff, so what would you offer to share?


- Hm... I don't have any resources and etc... But I found a small article about Greenladic (but it is written in Russish):

here is it

I can translate you some stuffs from it. It's not very big but it contains some information about the language :roll:

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-01-27, 17:08

That looks like a grammar overview... I have some grammar books at home and there are more (most of the ones listed at the bottom of the Russian article) in our university library.

Later I'll list some Greenlandic learning materials and where to buy them, so maybe you'd like to buy some stuff no one here has yet, so that we can exchange a bit.
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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-01-30, 13:16

Hi gothwolf,
getting back to your questions...:

gothwolf wrote:I have some questions.
1. Are the negative question forms of the verbs formed by this way:
ingo mun boađe?
itgo don boađe?
iigo son boađe? ...


I've looked that up in my books, and it looks like you write the question particle as a separate word when following the negative verb:
it go (don) boađe?

2.The preposition "lahka" is used with Genitive, but where is it situated? - in front of the noun, or after it? "joga lahka" (near a river), "vári lahka" (near a mountain?


It's usually a postposition, which means it follows the noun.

Most of your sentences look alright to me, but of course I'm only a learner and make mistakes as well. I'm going to ask a native speaker soon, though, I sometimes talk to someone in Norway on ICQ who speaks Saami as well.

-We live near the river and the mountain. - Orrut goađi ja(?) vári lahka (how is "and" in Saami. I used the Finnish preposition ;P)


I'm not certain about the syntax of this sentence here, intuitively I would put the verb at the end, but that might be wrong.
"and" is "ja" in Saami as well :)
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Postby gothwolf » 2007-01-30, 13:38

nighean-neonach, Thank you so much...

nighean-neonach wrote:
gothwolf wrote:-We live near the river and the mountain. - Orrut goađi ja(?) vári lahka (how is "and" in Saami. I used the Finnish preposition ;P)


I'm not certain about the syntax of this sentence here, intuitively I would put the verb at the end, but that might be wrong.
"and" is "ja" in Saami as well :)


I have 6th sence :wink:

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-02-04, 21:49

gothwolf wrote:Could you say more verbs :oops:


Yes, for sure :) Sorry for being so slow on this, but I have to split my time on this forum among several languages... ;)

gullat, mun gulan = hear
vuodjit, mun vuoján = drive
eallit, mun ealán = live
borrat, mun boran = eat
sihtat, mun siðan = want, wish
juhkat, mun jugan = drink
bargat, mun bargán = work

This is the infinitive and first person singular with each verb.

I'll post more stuff about basic grammar soon. I strongly suggest using the Gulahalan online lessons mentioned in another topic, they are really well done and helpful.
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Postby Steisi » 2007-02-04, 21:57

I will get around to writing stuff here but I spent a large part of my day doing Greenlandic and singing turkish songs :oops: instead of the huge Viking assignment I was supposed to and am now incredibly stressed and not very nice. :pissed:

I'll aim for later in the week ;)
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Postby Alcadras » 2007-02-04, 22:21

Stacy wrote:and singing turkish songs :oops:

Singing or listening? I wanna hear your singing. :lol:

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Postby Steisi » 2007-02-04, 22:23

:lol: singing, and I'd rather you didn't, I think I offend Turkey, the turks and the creators of turkish. And the people who made the song. And the people who appreciate it. :D
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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-02-05, 7:58

Stacy wrote:instead of the huge Viking assignment


:shock: :waytogo: That's a nice topic! Wish you success :)
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Postby gothwolf » 2007-02-05, 14:05

nighean-neonach wrote:gullat, mun gulan = hear
vuodjit, mun vuoján = drive
eallit, mun ealán = live
borrat, mun boran = eat
sihtat, mun siðan = want, wish
juhkat, mun jugan = drink
bargat, mun bargán = work

This is the infinitive and first person singular with each verb.

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Btw... In Sámi there are only three conjugations of verbs (which end in -at, -it and -ut). Am I right, or no? ;D

Please, don't tell me there are more conjugations! :wink:

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2007-02-05, 15:40

Well, these are only the words with an even number of syllables... there are other ones, but they are not so difficult :)
But why worry, just do it step by step!
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