Aurinĭa wrote:Linguoboy, you (among others) have said repeatedly you want a change in how UL is moderated. So when we present a concrete case and ask what you think should be done, we are asking for what you think should be done. Not for you to present different options depending on what we want.
Luís is actually the one who posted asking for help. If he was asking on behalf of the entire team, he didn't make that clear. But when it came to providing different options, he was quite explicit:
Luís wrote:What would your suggested action be for each of the goals you mention?
So here you are again, showing your whole ass because you can't be bothered to follow my advice and look at what was actually written before criticising my actions.
Aurinĭa wrote:Because that is what you reproach us for—that we don't take other users' opinion into account for deciding moderation issues.
First of all, you all didn't give us all the details (and--for the record--shouldn't have, because there are valid privacy issues at stake). It's impossible for me to say definitely what should or shouldn't be done in a particular case if all I have to go on is a one-sided summary.
But, more importantly, my point in replying the way that I did is that you all still haven't defined the basic principles
underlying your moderatorial style. I asked people how they viewed Unilang and what they wanted it to be until I got tired of asking. With few exceptions[*], y'all haven't wanted to talk about that. You prefer putting the cart before the horse and getting right to specifics. I tried to explain in this thread while that's not an ideal approach and got minimal response.
So it's a case of garbage in, garbage out. We've asked you for the necessary tools so that everyone can do a better job here. (Naava posed some very specific questions in response to Luís' request regarding how bans work here. Were they ever fully answered?) You all haven't shown much interest in providing them. But when it comes to slagging me (and others) for not doing enough with the inadequate resources we've been given, suddenly you're all on board.
ETA: [*] I don't mean to sell short the contributions of Car, Ashucky, Luís, and others who have responded to my more abstract questions in good faith. They aren't the ones criticising my efforts here.