księżycowy wrote:I just can't help but think we are gaining a bunch of bloat to our list here. It'd be one thing if these additions were seeing use, but I don't see that being the case with 95% of these additions lately.
I guess the theory is that people are making posts like these to get a foothold into the forum and to appear like a legitimate user, with a plan to post commercial links or other spam-like posts in the future? And this is probably true. (Another sign of this seems to be that they go back and edit their posts repeatedly, which I see the most recent list has as well.)
But I looked at the profile of the user who posted that most recent list, before that account was deactivated, and noticed that he/she had listed a lot of ancient and extinct languages related to (or otherwise similar to) the languages that he/she wanted to have added.
Even if these languages don't yet have any posts mentioning them, I guess it's not unreasonable that, when you sign up on a forum and create a profile, if the languages you know aren't available, you'd want to be able to add them to your profile and that's understandable.
So... how do we distinguish a new user who is bringing new languages into our forum, from spammers who are not? Suggestion
: would be it be helpful to genuine new users whose languages aren't listed, if we created an entry in the language list for "other language not listed" so that they could, for example, include it in their profile ("Other language not listed - Native Language", "Other language not listed - Known at an advanced level (B2,C1)", etc.) and a policy like we have in the politics form, that a user's first post shouldn't be one asking to add profile languages? We could make a post to that effect pinned at the top of this thread and also an explanation that it is an anti-spam measure, not meant to limit the languages that are actually used or listed in profiles. I think we're very happy to add new languages for active users, we just want to make sure that they are genuine users with an interest in languages, and not spammers or bots with an interest in selling us Nike shoes or fake diplomas.
Karavinka wrote:Starting this thread is the greatest sin I have ever committed to Unilang.
No, I appreciate it and appreciate Luis for adding them, because I have asked to have quite a few added myself and use them often. In fact, in the most recent list made by the user whose account was deactivated, I was glad to see this one listed:
and I do think it should be added, because it has been used numerous times (including by me) and I've just been either writing out the name instead of a flag, or using the ownflag code. I should probably remember this thread more myself and add the languages that I'm actually using rather than using the ownflag code as much as I do.
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