do_shahbaz wrote:I am creating an a-posteriori conlang based on a real Indo-European language becoming extinct 1000 years ago.
1) In Indo-European languages, word for "hand", "dog", "do", "die", the numbers, etc. tend to change more slowly and less drastically, but the words "tail", "girl", "kick", among others get replaced and re-invented more often. Are there trends, universal and IE-specific, that governs which words and expressions are to be more "conservative" and "innovative" then the rest?
2) How much should a language change from 1000 A.D to 2000 A.D, lexically, syntactically, and grammatically?
3) Can expressions such as "please", "hello", etc. hold out for 1000 years (in English the former displaced "pray" [as in "Pray do tell me Mr. Bingley..."])
4) Do wars, sprachraum-expansion, migration, and other social phenomena impact the speed of language evolution, and in what way (accelerating or decelerating)?
N.B. I'm not sure whether to create this thread in this forum or the next one (a.k.a General Languages). The discussion would certainly have implications on real-lang linguistics; I guess I shall move the discussion there if it gets too interesting.
*okay, I admit that am still stumped on some issues with the phonology. Which brings me to my last question :
5) Is it wise to start off with the lexicon of a conlang even when the phonology remains somewhat unresolved?
Dormouse559 wrote:do_shahbaz wrote:4) Do wars, sprachraum-expansion, migration, and other social phenomena impact the speed of language evolution, and in what way (accelerating or decelerating)?
Possibly, but not all in the same way, and the effect will vary based on the details of the situation.
Dormouse559 wrote:A quick Wikipedia search got me the Dolgopolsky list, which gives the 15 most stable words from a sample of 140 languages.
There isn't a hard-and-fast rule here because all languages change at varying rates and in different ways. Certainly, I'd expect a language spoken now to be quite different from its ancestor a millennium ago, but exactly how much and how can vary widely.
I'm curious which language you're starting with; if it has any close relatives with more recent attestation, those are worth a look. The location and history of the conlang are also relevant.
do_shahbaz wrote:Is there an extended version of the list? One that ranks concepts according to their cross-linguistical semantical stability?
Can the extent of the lexical and grammatical changes be measured? For instance, how much of the lexicon would you expect to change? (loanwords excluding)
Honestly, I am a bit hesitant in sharing the details of my projects, which is why that wasn't the first thing I did in this thread/ But it seems that the peoples of this forum can be "trusted"... (no offense). And to the admins, I say that I have no intentions, by linking to another conlanging forum, of promoting said forum.
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