Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

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Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby xBlackHeartx » 2017-06-30, 18:53

I've always found Lingua Franca Nova really charming for some reason. I've been trying to learn it on and off for years now. Yeah, I like how it sounds, and I see it as far superior to Esperanto (even if it does have some Euro-centric bias, such as how it forms passives), but really I have a hard time convincing myself to learn a language where the only thing I'll ever use it for is reading a translation of Alice in Wonderland. And don't ask me why they would choose to translate something that's so heavily dependent on word play, which obviously doesn't translate well. The only advantage to it is that its in the public domain, but was it really their best option? Seriously.

I know learning languages is supposed to exercise your brain or something, but frankly I don't see Lingua Franca Nova being much of an exercise. I mean, the grammar is simpler than Esperanto and even if you don't know the language you can probably recognize 90% of the vocabulary just because its a posteriori.

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Re: Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby Ser » 2017-06-30, 20:58

xBlackHeartx wrote:I've always found Lingua Franca Nova really charming for some reason. I've been trying to learn it on and off for years now. Yeah, I like how it sounds, and I see it as far superior to Esperanto (even if it does have some Euro-centric bias, such as how it forms passives), but really I have a hard time convincing myself to learn a language where the only thing I'll ever use it for is reading a translation of Alice in Wonderland. And don't ask me why they would choose to translate something that's so heavily dependent on word play, which obviously doesn't translate well. The only advantage to it is that its in the public domain, but was it really their best option? Seriously.

I know learning languages is supposed to exercise your brain or something, but frankly I don't see Lingua Franca Nova being much of an exercise. I mean, the grammar is simpler than Esperanto and even if you don't know the language you can probably recognize 90% of the vocabulary just because its a posteriori.

If the conlang has a really small userbase and hardly has anything produced in it, well, I guess your main option, if you like the language, is to produce things yourself.

I'm looking at the Wikipedia article on that conlang and it seems there's a few more things in it. The Little Prince, A Christmas Carol, King Lear, Mark Twain's Letters from the Earth, and, most importantly in my opinion, some original poetry written by some guy called Guido Crufio.

I've sometimes thought of learning Interlingua and making things in it for exactly the same reasons (I think it's better than Esperanto and it deserves to have more written in it), but to be honest, when it comes to "useless" languages I'd rather make new original things in Latin. :P
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Re: Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby Zé do Rock » 2018-04-08, 17:10

mi no conesai esa lingua, mas è la lingua maxi pre de ma panlatino. ken po parlar unu, po parlar el otru, mi supon. LFN hav osie catalian, panlatino non ha catalian mas ha rumanian - tota linguas nacional, nade lingua regional.

LFN hav un letra par son, panlatino cuazi: pro ca-ce-ci-co-cu on di /ka-Se-Si-ko-ku/ (S=sh), si tu vo dizer /ka-ke-ki-ko-ku/ tu scrive 'ca-ke-ki-co-cu'. e ci+vocal ha la son /si/+vocal (nacional = nasio'nal). ma la rest es igual. e la H, ki solo existe na palavras 'ha-v, hotel, hospital', è mut.

LFN ha multi palavras ki fini co vocal, panlatin osie. ma panlatino perde lus si lus is non acompanee por consonant, asie mult iatos es evitee...

ma la similaritee è mega, on podai parlar de dialectos:

Bon dia. - bon dia
Alo. - alo
Como es tu? - Como va?
Bon, e tu? - Ben, e tu?
No mal. - No mal.
Ce es tu nom? - Cual è ta nom?
Me nom es Maria. - Ma nom è Maria.
Tu gusta un tas de cafe? - Tu gust un tasa de cafee?
Si, per favore. - Si, por favor.
Grasias! - Mersie!
Per no cosa. - Pro nad.
Joia! - Joi! Salud!
Tu es vera bela. -- Tu è realmente bel, tu è veramente bel
Pardona? - Pardon?
Me ama tu. - Mi ama tu.
Me debe vade aora. - Mi deve vad agor.
Asta la ora? - Ata log.
Adio. - Chau.
Bon sera. - Bon suar, bon noit
Bon fortuna. - Bon sort!

Lingua Franca Nova es desiniada per es un lingua vera simple, coerente, e fasil aprendeda, per comunica internasional. El ave varios cualia bon:

Lingua Franca Nova è desinee pra ser una lingua veramente simple, coerent, e fasil ad aprend, pra la comunicacion internacional. Lu ha varios cualitee bon:

El ave un numero limitada de fonemes. El sona simila a italian o espaniol.
Lu hav un numero limitee de fonemas. Lu sona similar ad italian o espanian.

El es scriveda como el sona. No enfante deve pasa multe anios studia nonregulas.
Lu è scrivee como lu sona. Nade nini deve pasar mult anos na studar neregularitees.

El unico cuestion ki rest è: pra ke on necesit esa linguas?

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Re: Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby Dormouse559 » 2018-04-08, 18:24

Zé, please include an English translation (preferably in traditional spelling) when you write in another language on the conlanging forum. It's common courtesy so others can understand what you're saying.
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Re: Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby Zé do Rock » 2018-04-08, 22:41

Dormouse559 wrote:Zé, please include an English translation (preferably in traditional spelling) when you write in another language on the conlanging forum. It's common courtesy so others can understand what you're saying.


ok.

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Re: Is there any point to learning a conlang no one uses?

Postby IpseDixit » 2018-04-16, 15:50

Zé do Rock wrote:mi no conesai esa lingua, mas è la lingua maxi pre de ma panlatino. ken po parlar unu, po parlar el otru, mi supon. LFN hav osie catalian, panlatino non ha catalian mas ha rumanian - tota linguas nacional, nade lingua regional.


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