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Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-09, 9:24

The auxlang I'm currently working on. Its name comes from ard (Earth) and lang (language).

It follows the principle "one letter, one sound" with just very few exceptions due to euphonia. Some letters can be read in two different ways to make pronounciation easier (for example, a French or a Russian speaker could read j as /ʒ/ while an English or a Hindi speaker could read it as /ʤ/).

Since I need to organize my ideas, any suggestion is welcome. I especially need some help about borrowing from Asiatic languages.

Phonology and alphabet

The stress is always on the penultimate syllable. Double letters are not allowed, so "syllable" becomes silab.

a /a/
b /b/
c /ʦ/ or /ʣ/
d /d/
e /e/
f /f/
g /g/
h /h/ or /x/
i /i/
j /ʒ/ or /ʤ/
k /k/
l /l/
m /m/
n /n/
o /o/
p /p/
q /ʧ/
r /r/ or /ɹ/
s /s/
t /t/
u /u/
v /v/
w /w/
x /ʃ/
y /j/
z /z/

Exceptions:

- th /θ/ or /ð/ (used very rarely)
- ng /ŋ/ (only when at the end of a word)
- When ao and eo are in the last syllable or in a monosyllabic word, o is a normal vowel (for example, kakao (cocoa) has the second a stressed). Otherwise, o becomes a semivowel (for example, aoman (arrogant) has the first a stressed).
- The final "e" can be mute, without changing the stress. This is used to make the pronounciation of some words more natural, like xarade (charade) or algoritme (algorhythm).

Borrowing

I don't follow a specifical set of rules, but I prefer words to be short and common. If I find an interesting word in a less common language (like Basque or Armenian), sometimes I prefer it. The main sources (lesser sources are in brackets), geographically categorized, are:

Europe: English (Irish), Italian, French, Spanish (Portuguese, Basque), German (Dutch), Russian (Belarusian, Ukrainian, Czech, Serbo-Croatian, Armenian), Latin, Greek (Albanian), Proto Indo-European.
Asia: Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, Turkish, Indonesian, Hindi-Urdu (Sanskrit), Persian.
Africa: Arabic, Swahili

Nouns

There is no plural form. If a noun is plural, it can be inferred from the context. If necessary, the determinative article al has the alternative form el to indicate the plural. The indeterminative article is un.

There is also no difference between noun, adjective and verb.

Many nouns of people and animals may form a masculine or a feminine form by adding the suffix -o or -a. Ex: raj (regnant) -> rajo (king), raja (queen)

Verbs

All verbs are regular and their conjugation is mainly isolating. If necessary, the particles and the verb can be linked with a hyphen.

Ex: pad (to fall)
Present: pad
Past: pa pad
Future: fu pad
Immediate future: va pad
Present conditional: ud pad
Past conditional: ud pa pad
Future conditional (hypothetical): ud fu pad
Present participle: padint
Past participle: ge pad
Gerund: padend

EDIT: Earth is no more translated as "arda", but as "ard".
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Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby linguoboy » 2013-04-09, 13:08

Fox Saint-Just wrote:Since I need to organize my ideas, any suggestion is welcome. I especially need some help about borrowing from Asiatic languages.

If I were designing an auxlang, I'd avoid affricates altogether. I also would not want a phonemic distinction between /v/ and /w/, since these are weakly distinguished if at all in many languages.
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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-09, 14:08

I see the point. I would like to keep this range of phonemes, so perhaps it would work better not as an auxlang but as a conlang a posteriori.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-15, 19:34

Here’s the first article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Tot human quxen azad i egal in end-yot i prav. Le hav razon i yangxim, i deb akt mutwal in spirit de frat-yot.

Construction: All human beings (plural inferred) are born free and equal in worth+“ness” and rights (plural not strictly necessary). They have reason and conscience, and must act mutually in spirit of sibling+“ness”.
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Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Michael » 2013-04-16, 15:00

I thought the Ard- in Ardlang came from the Irish Gaelic ard, so I thought it meant "high language". :mrgreen: Nice conlang, btw! I plan on creating an a priori conlang as well sometime in the near future, although it will have grammatical influences from Ancient Greek and Goidelic.
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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-17, 9:38

HoItalosPhilellên wrote:I thought the Ard- in Ardlang came from the Irish Gaelic ard, so I thought it meant "high language". :mrgreen: Nice conlang, btw! I plan on creating an a priori conlang as well sometime in the near future, although it will have grammatical influences from Ancient Greek and Goidelic.


Thanks. Your project seems interesting, good work with it. Also, if you think that some tems derived from Irish Gaelic could fit, feel free to suggest them.

I'm unsure about terms derived from Greek ending with -osis or -asis. For example, let's consider osmosis. What would be the best translation, osmozi or osmoze? Remember, the ending -e can become mute, so it could be pronunced as in French.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Ashucky » 2013-04-21, 20:27

I know I'm late but I just had to say ... I thought you borrowed the name from Tolkien. Arda is the name of the Earth in his legendarium. :D

Anyway, it looks like an interesting language. Keep it up. :)
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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-21, 21:30

Ashucky wrote:I know I'm late but I just had to say ... I thought you borrowed the name from Tolkien. Arda is the name of the Earth in his legendarium. :D


Actually I took it from Arabic (I was inspired by Lingwa de Planeta too). Only later I remembered about Tolkien. :mrgreen: I was thinking about changing it to Ard, however.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-04-23, 14:07

Following Wikipedia tradition, here's the Pater Noster:

Wey Patro in tyan, tey nam u-es ge-fa-xinsen
Tey monarhi u-lay, tey vol u-es ge-far
Zay in tyan, so zay sur ard
Te u-dan a we hodi wey din pan
I u-pardon wey gunah
Zay we pardon kele ke gunah anti we
I ne u-lid we in temptat
Ma u-azad we ab mal


Construction: Our Father in sky, your name [imp.] be made sacred
Your monarchy [imp.] come, your will [imp.] be done
As in sky, so on ard
You [imp.] give to us today our daily bread
And [imp.] forgive our sins
As we forgive those who sin against us
And no [imp.] lead us in temptation
But [imp.] free us from evil
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-05-07, 9:30

Here's the Swadesh list, complete with etymology of every word.
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[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-05-20, 17:05

Translation of Macbeth's final monologue

Zatra, i zatra, i zatra
Krawl in este parve hatwa ab din a din,
Ta ahir silab de ge-konces wakti,
I ves wey yerek pa far luz a el glup
Sur pat a pulve-plen mort. Veg, veg, dwan xemha!
Jiv es nur un qalnint saya, un nizgrad aktor
pavonint i se-agitint in hoy saha sur scene
I potim es ne plus ge-awdit. H'es un raskaz
Ge-xwo por un idyot, plen de xur i furya
Bez mayn.


Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.


NOTES:
"Sound" is translated as "noise" and "Life's but a" as ""Life is only a".
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[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-06-04, 7:55

A little change: the suffix "+ -yot", which stands for "-ness", "-hood" and such, will be replaced by "-yote" to make to word look more natural and avoid unnecessary pauses. So, for example, azad-yot (freedom) will become azadyote. The origin of the suffix is Nahuatl "-yōtl".

Of course, koyote still means "coyote".
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-07-07, 22:18

I have uploaded the introduction video on the Conlang channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0IwkHhCmE

Oh dear, my voice is awful, my appearance is awful, the only decent thing is the picture behind me.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby razlem » 2013-07-08, 5:20

I thought it was good! I'm anxious to hear Ardlang, it looks very interesting. :)
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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-07-11, 7:52

razlem wrote:I thought it was good! I'm anxious to hear Ardlang, it looks very interesting. :)


Thanks! I'm collecting the resources into this blog, in case someone is interested: http://ardlangproject.blogspot.it/
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Ashucky » 2013-07-12, 23:44

Fox Saint-Just wrote:I have uploaded the introduction video on the Conlang channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0IwkHhCmE

Oh dear, my voice is awful, my appearance is awful, the only decent thing is the picture behind me.
Like Ben's already said, it was good and I can't wait to hear some Ardlang :)
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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-07-23, 11:42

While working on an Ardlang video, I will share with you the motto of Ardlang, which is "FACIL, SOYUZ, PLURI".

It means "Easy, united, various". These are the three basic principles of Ardlang: easy pronunciation and structure, no irregularities and a vocabulary that draws from many languages.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2013-08-26, 11:00

I've been revising the dictionary and some grammatical rule. The suffix -iote has been replaced by -itas, and I'm working on relative pronouns. I hope to upload soon a basic dictionary with grammatical rules.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2014-10-17, 11:01

Ardlang is now on FrathWiki: http://www.frathwiki.com/Ardlang

I'm wondering whether to keep "sh" for [ʃ] and "x" for [ks] or shift to "x" for [ʃ] and use "ks" for [ks]. I'm also thinking that switching to Cyrillic alphabet for good could be a good idea.
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.

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Re: Ardlang

Postby Fox Saint-Just » 2014-11-10, 13:33

Ardlang has been renamed. Say hello to Novbasa: http://www.frathwiki.com/Novbasa/Lexicon
Native: [flag=]it[/flag] [flag=]egl[/flag] B2: [flag=]en[/flag] Intermediate: [flag=]de[/flag] [flag=]fr[/flag] Curious about: [flag=]ru[/flag] [flag=]hy[/flag] [flag=]eu[/flag] [flag=]nah[/flag] [flag=]ga[/flag] [flag=]sr[/flag]
[flag=]art[/flag] Currently developing Ardlang: http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=40076.


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