Anyone studying Vietnamese?

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Anyone studying Vietnamese?

Postby BobMaster0 » 2004-09-28, 15:20

If so, I'd like to know what it's like.

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Postby uilux » 2004-09-29, 0:49

I can speak a little Vietnamese.
A few Vietnamese sentences:
Ông có biết nói tiếng Anh không?
Can you speak English?
Tôi định tặng mẹ tôi một chiếc bánh mửng sinh nhật.
I want to buy a birthday cake for my mom.
Tất cả bàn ghế này tôi đều mua ở Hải Phòng.
I bought these chairs in Hai Phoung.
Không xa lám, đi bộ mẩt khoảng mười phút
It is not very far. It only takes ten minutes walk.
Vietnamese is not a very difficult language, at least to us Chinese it is easy to learn. The grammar is similar to that of Chinese. And many Vietnamese words come from Chinese. It also has tones. There are six tones in Vietnames.
You can go to this site to learn more:
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/vietnamese/V ... etsite.htm

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Postby BobMaster0 » 2004-09-29, 2:29

I'm studying Chinese right now actually. Do you think that it will help at all with similar words, or are they too different for it to matter?

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Postby Psi-Lord » 2004-09-29, 3:30

Though the following page is only about the Vietnamese writing system, I believe it's worth having a look at. :)

http://www.cjvlang.com/Writing/writsys/writviet.html
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Postby cyberstranger » 2006-05-18, 18:15

Indeed Vietnamese is not easy to learn for most Europeans and Americans. However if you are fluent in any East Asian language or have some experience of learning them, it will help you very much.

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Postby yersi » 2006-06-15, 3:12

I've been taking a course on/off while doing my first year of mandarin. It's hard, really really hard, but I have the tones down and most of the consonants. The vowels/diphtongs are just impossible for me to distinguish. :shock:

For the guy asking above, if you are studying Chinese you will get some help with the tones and grammar, the words seem for me mostly unrelated to mandarin, except for some obvious ones like trung quóc = zhongguo.

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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-30, 6:13

Mwahaha! Another language for me to learn! :twisted: Vietnamese was actually the first foreign language that I attempted to learn when I was small (5)- there are a lot of Vietnamese in Québec after all. :D Anyway, last week two events happened to persuade me to learn it again. A friend from TO came down to Cali to visit us AND I found out that Vietnamese-English translators in the OC make an average of 75 000 per year! :o I need to get roling then, eh? 8) Hope your ready JF. :P
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Postby JackFrost » 2006-10-30, 6:20

Ready for what? lol :oops:
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-30, 6:59

Just teasing. :wink: I don't learn a language well if it's taught to me hehe - I can figure it out. 8)
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Postby JackFrost » 2006-10-30, 7:50

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Just kidding. It's something that my boyfriend's mother loves to say all the time. :P

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I made it in photos because there is a problem in Unilang with showing the tone markers. :?

I am not the right person to learn Vietnamese with. I still have too much trouble with the language. :P
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-30, 7:57

I was teasing in the first place. :wink: I don,t understand the first thing though... :?
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Postby JackFrost » 2006-10-30, 8:11

First line...

Oh my god...what the hell? Talking crap, you stupid sweet tasting fried Cambodian monkey.

I don't really mean it...the monkey part. My boyfriend's mother always says that and I find it funny...so I just say it. ;) And yes, it's an insult to call a Vietnamese as an Cambodian. They hate each other so much as my boyfriend claimed (he hates it a lot when I call him a Cambodian). :P

Second line...

I know you will learn to speak Vietnamese very good.

Good luck and make good money!


And if you really learn to speak it good, oh the Vietnamese people will be extremely shocked to see a black guy speaking their language. :lol: :mrgreen:
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-30, 16:55

Thanks for the translations - I understood the last two already though. :wink: As I said, I'm just coming back to Vietnamese - it's not the first time that I'm learning it so I'm hoping my prior studies will help me. :P As for money, that will be in the distant future if at all in the first place - but it's good to have as many reasonable plans as possible, you know? - I'm kinda feeling 'done' with the Middle eastern languages - it's just not a good idea for me to go over there at all...for several obvious reasons... :P And I'm sure they will be as shocked as the Persians are to hear a black guy speak their language. :P I alllllways love that response; never gets old. :lol: Thanks for the translation - I'll have to use that. :wink:
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Postby Alcadras » 2006-10-30, 21:26

i hate diacritics.

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Postby culúrien » 2006-10-30, 21:31

Alcadras wrote:i hate diacritics.


Then Vietnamese is clearly not the language for you! :P
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Postby JackFrost » 2006-10-30, 21:55

Alcadras wrote:i hate diacritics.

Vietnamese may seem to have a lot of them, but they're not all true diacritics that change the sound of the letter. There are five diacritics don't change any sounds, but they tell what tonal level that the word has.

(Pay attention Marcus, this is something I can teach you all! :P)

True diacritics
ă (/ɐ/)
â (/ɜ/)
ê (/e/)
ô (/o/)
ơ (/əː/)
ư (/ɨ/)
đ (/ɗ/)

Tonal diacritics
à (falling tone)
(high creaky tone)
ã­ (rising-falling tone)
á (rising tone)
(low creaky tone)
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Postby Sisyphe » 2006-10-30, 23:23

:lol:
I don't know why the diacritics don't work for you :? They don't all look right...Try to write the diacritic first and then the letter. :wink:

a - d́âu ngang
̉a - d́âu h̉oi
́a - d́âu śăc
̀a - d́âu huỳên
̃a - d́âu ng̃a
̣a - d́âu ṇăng

BTW, I'm focusing on the Sài Gòn and Huế dialects, since that is what most Việt Kiều here speak. That means that I can merge the d́âu h̉oi and d́âu ng̃a tones. :P I could never differentiate between the two, so it's better that way...
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Postby yellow » 2006-11-12, 23:26

You don't need to speak like a Hanoian, but you should be able to speak and pronounce correctly when needed, it helps a lot in writing :D

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Postby ILuvEire » 2007-12-09, 3:49

BobMaster0 wrote:I'm studying Chinese right now actually. Do you think that it will help at all with similar words, or are they too different for it to matter?


Vietnamese has a lot of borrowed words from Chinese, it also a tonal language so that can really help you.

Hoa-Fire (huo/fo)
Hoa-Flower (hua/fa)
dau-head (tou/tauh)

I can't think of any more.

PS Sorry I can't type the diacritics...stupid computer! As you hopefully know, hoa (fire) and hoa (flower) are pronounced differently...I just cant type it.

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Postby hanumizzle » 2007-12-09, 4:39

ILuvEire wrote:PS Sorry I can't type the diacritics...stupid computer! As you hopefully know, hoa (fire) and hoa (flower) are pronounced differently...I just cant type it.


You could use the VIQR mnemonic characters.
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