Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

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Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

Postby rouviirouvoul » 2009-07-02, 3:24

I found a list of words that are apparent and possible cognates between the two languages. There may be some slight differences in meaning, but there nonetheless interesting.

Vietnamese-Cambodian-English
xuong-ch'ung-bone
con-kon-child
cat-kat-cut
chi-chai-louse
me-mai-mother
mui-chramoh-nose
gay-kay-scratch
ngay-thngay/ngay-day
mat-moat-face
chan-cheung-leg
bon-buon-four
trai-plai-fruit
toc-sok-hair
tay-day-hand
bu-bau-suck
ba-bei-three
nuoc-tuk-water
nam-chhnam-year
mot-muy-one
duoi-kontui-tail
co-ka-neck
o-ae-at
to-thom-big
nam-pram-five



The Khmer words that have two syllables, the first syllable is a prefix.
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Re: Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

Postby Tenebrarum » 2009-07-02, 14:11

một - muy - one
ba - bei - three
bốn - buon - four
năm - pram - five

xương - ch'ung - bone
mặt - moat - face
tóc - sok - hair
tay - day - hand
chân / cẳng - cheung - leg
cổ - ka - neck
mũi - chramoh - nose
đuôi - kontui - tail

ngày - thngay / ngay - day
con - kon - child
--> con trai - konplai (?) - son
vòng - vong (?) - circle, ring
trái - plai - fruit
chí - chai - louse
mẹ / má - mai - mother
nước (proto Vietic *da:k) - tuk - water
năm - chhnam - year

cắt - kat - cut
gãi - kay - scratch
bú - bau - suck

to - thom - big (? - doesn't seem plausible)

ở - ae - at

How about "new" (mới)? I remember that "new year" is also cognate.
And what's the Khmer words for "dog" and "silver"? In VNmese they're chó and bạc.
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Re: Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

Postby rouviirouvoul » 2009-07-02, 22:02

I don't know what konplai is but it doesn't mean son.

new -thmei
dog - chkai/cha
silver - prak

I'm not too sure which sounds in Vietnamese corresponds to which in Khmer, Khmer experienced a vowel shift when voicing distinction was lost. The word for dog, chkai, is unrelated to any other Mon-Khmer form, 'ch' is a suffix attached to kai. The original word is pretty restricted to calendar usage.

Does any of these words have similar form to Vietnamese ones?

rui - fly
kong kaip - frog
chhma - cat
banh - shoot
chuok - smoking
chap - catch
bak - broken
phaem - pregnant
puoh - stomach
pung- stomach
daang - handle of something
leu - on top
kliek - armpits
doh - grow
chah - old
runh - push/propel
reuh - pick up
ruoh - to be alive
kaet - born
dak - put/place
chong chaem - eye brows
dam - plant
pka - flower
suor - ask
mok - to come
rok - to look for
taam - to follow
deek - sleep
ken - sleep
luok - deep in sleep
pray - salty
mriem/riem - finger
chong - end
daem - start
meul - look
kheun - see
hoop - eat
nham - eat
chok - eat
baek - open
duol - fall
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Re: Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

Postby Tenebrarum » 2009-07-03, 1:39

How does one say "son" and "daughter" in Khmer then? Do they both start with kon?
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một - muy - one
ba - bei - three
bốn - buon - four
năm - pram - five

xương - ch'ung - bone
mặt - moat - face
tóc - sok - hair
tay - day - hand
chân / cẳng - cheung - leg
cổ - ka - neck
mũi - chramoh - nose
đuôi - kontui - tail

nách (proto Vietic *knɛk) - kliek - armpit
mèo - chhma - cat

con - kon - child
ngày - thngay / ngay - day
chó - chkai / cha - dog
vòng - vong (?) - circle, ring
ruồi - rui - fly
trái - plai - fruit
chí - chai - louse
mẹ / má - mai - mother
bạc - prak - silver
bụng - pung - stomach
nước (p.V *da:k) - tuk - water
năm - chhnam - year

chụp (snatch, catch) - chap (catch)
cắt - kat - cut
chựng / chừng (stop half-way) - chong (end)
đặt - dak - put, place

gãi - kay - scratch
bắn - banh - shoot
bú - bau - suck

to - thom - big (? - doesn't seem plausible)
bể - bak - broken
cụt - kot - cut off, amputated

mới - thmei - new
già - chah - old

ở - ae - at
lên (up, upwards, over) - leu (on top)
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Re: Vietnamese-Khmer cognates

Postby rouviirouvoul » 2009-07-03, 3:34

To say son or daughter, you use kon. Kon proh for son, kon srei for daughter. Most Khmer familial terms are gender neutral but age differentiated. For example bong is either older brother or older sister while p'oen is younger brother or younger sister.
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