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Karavinka wrote:It doesn't seem to teach grammar explicitly.
Luís wrote:Karavinka wrote:It doesn't seem to teach grammar explicitly.
At least in the web version, they do have some grammar notes to go with every lesson (or group of lessons).
Karavinka wrote:I don't really seem to understand this. The max level is 25 and I'm already 4? It seems the level has little to do with the tree completion.
Karavinka wrote:Luís wrote:At least in the web version, they do have some grammar notes to go with every lesson (or group of lessons).
Ah, I see. I'll try to ignore if I come across them. At least it doesn't sound like it's an integral part of it.
Luís wrote:Karavinka wrote:I don't really seem to understand this. The max level is 25 and I'm already 4? It seems the level has little to do with the tree completion.
It has to do with experience points (XPs). You earn them everytime you complete or review your lessons.
And it's not linear, but rather sort of exponential. For instance, you only need about 100 XPs to go from Level 3 to Level 4, but you need 1000 XPs to go from Level 11 to Level 12 and 4000 XPs to go from Level 24 to Level 25.
kevin wrote:Karavinka wrote:Luís wrote:At least in the web version, they do have some grammar notes to go with every lesson (or group of lessons).
Ah, I see. I'll try to ignore if I come across them. At least it doesn't sound like it's an integral part of it.
It's just notes related to a skill that appear below the lesson selection in the menu of that skill. You can read them or ignore them, your choice.
It's interesting that you actually prefer the "figure it out yourself" approach. That doesn't work for me at all, it feels horribly inefficient and tends to frustrate me.
Karavinka wrote:- Genders cannot be assumed from German. Das Buch in German, but en bok in Swedish. This is a really, really bad news.
Car wrote:Karavinka wrote:- Genders cannot be assumed from German. Das Buch in German, but en bok in Swedish. This is a really, really bad news.
If even German and Dutch don't always share them, you really can't expect German and Swedish to do so. Just a tip: Use the definitive forms to learn the gender, at least based on my experience with Norwegian, it works better that way.
If you dislike learning grammar rules, you might want to try out LingQ. Sure, there are some courses on grammar, but you can choose which courses to take.
It's Tagebuch, BTW.
Karavinka wrote: - Pojken, Flickan, Barnet. en/ett → -an/en or -et.
Karavinka wrote: - Jag, du, han/hon/det, vi, ni, de. De sounds a bit strange, as if it's pronounced like don.
Karavinka wrote: - Irregular plurals, as expected.
- Regular plurals seem to take -Vr form so far.
Karavinka wrote:When you spot errors, please do NOT provide too much explanation. Just pointing out "this is not right" is good enough
Irusia wrote:Your tree looks differently from mine. I do not have those levels indicated for each skill.
Irusia wrote:Your tree looks differently from mine. I do not have those levels indicated for each skill.
Karavinka wrote:Irusia wrote:Your tree looks differently from mine. I do not have those levels indicated for each skill.
Hm, strange. I checked the web version and it looks like this. Maybe this is what you see?
The web shows Food to Plurals are already filled, whereas on the phone I've barely touched them. ...Does anyone have any idea? Does it use two entirely different systems depending on your device but somehow share the same progress? Makes no sense to me.
linguoboy wrote:Irusia wrote:Your tree looks differently from mine. I do not have those levels indicated for each skill.
Me neither. But I haven't even registered. I'm not even doing the lessons. I'm advancing solely by testing out of levels. There's so much repetition in the tests that I can't even imagine what the lessons are like. Like the last one I passed for Swedish literally began with the exact same phrase ("Det är vår") Every. Damn. Time. My autocomplete has memorised scores of new phrases; if I type "Jem" it knows the next word will be "pomidora" (I'm doing Polish as well).
Car wrote:Yes, I take the placement tests and then test out as well. Even that feels so awful that I really don't know why I go back to it from time to time.
Car wrote:If I fail to test out of the levels and have to do the lessons, it's even worse. But Memrise also has far too much repetition for me. Makes me appreciate LingQ more despite all the bugs.
linguoboy wrote:Car wrote:Yes, I take the placement tests and then test out as well. Even that feels so awful that I really don't know why I go back to it from time to time.
Nothing is worse than making it all the way to the end and then flubbing the final question, something I did twice yesterday.
Car wrote:If I fail to test out of the levels and have to do the lessons, it's even worse. But Memrise also has far too much repetition for me. Makes me appreciate LingQ more despite all the bugs.
I guess I really need to give this a shot.
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