Rape statistics Sweden 2013

[Anjak]

Hello to all,

I would like to open a discussion and hear your opinion about a growing problem in Sweden.
You all must have read about latest statistics regarding criminal sexual offense ["rape"] in Sweden.

" 2013: 1 in 4 Swedish Women Will Be Raped as Sexual Assaults Increase 500% "

it's everywhere and the figures are scarey and what scarey mostly is that for some reason, no one really talks about it. At first, these crime rates didn't bothered me until I revealed one of my best friends was raped. she would never talk about it and I assume like many don't.

"Shocking Numbers: Over One in Four Swedish women will be raped
THE NEW SWEDEN. The National Crime Prevention Council released on Tuesday a new report..."


“the estimated number of rapes in the population amounts to more than 29,000 events in 2011″

Currently the statistics say that Sweden is #2 in the world in Rapes after Africa.
I am not going to load up why it occur cause it's clear. I am asking your opinion and why no one care. why would the media won't make this a big deal and why Swedish as a community is not doing a thing but ignore.

Here is a review of this report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIvPvYEfjOw

There is no doubt that there is a paradox or dead end in this growing problem since neither the media nor the gov is in any legal condition of facing the problem. I also ask the guys, men, fathers, brothers, boyfriends who read this..what can you do to make this stop.

[Johanna]

In Sweden the shame is on the rapist, not on the person being raped, thus more rapes are reported.

Compare that to Iran, where reporting rape will earn you about 50 lashes for sex outside marriage (if you're a woman) or being hanged (if you're a man). And if your husband rapes you it's not even rape legally, it's his right...

But even compared to other Western countries we report more rapes since our legislation tells us that more things are considered rape and not just "being overly close sexually", like forcing your penis into someone's mouth.

It's a case of how women are protected legally against sexual advances, not of actual rape.

[Anjak]

compare Sweden to Iran? are you joking?

The fact more women are brave to report only bold the fact that they were assaulted, for it's linear to the assault.

on the other hand do you suggest women in u.k and u.s report rape less then in Sweden? cause Sweden top the chart way after u.s & u.k which are much more bigger then Sweden.

Did you heard of Stockholm syndrome? if you can't beat them join them..and so, these statistics must be false..The Swedish women are to be blamed for reporting too much..

[Johanna]

The point is that for some reason when it comes to rape, the victim gets the blame, and also blames her/himself, which in turn makes the victim less prone to reporting it.

And even if not all legal systems assigns the blame to the victim, like in the case of Iran, the culture does. Not to mention that even if you have a full legal support, you pretty much have to go through the whole thing again with a lawyer saying that you asked for it.

And yes, I am comparing Sweden to Iran, since the peaks in "rape" is all about the legal definitions, with Sweden being progressive and Iran being conservative.

You're a guy, aren't you?

[linguoboy]

on the other hand do you suggest women in u.k and u.s report rape less then in Sweden?

If she wasn't suggesting it, than I will. 0.74% of our population is in prison, where rape is (a) endemic and (b) rarely reported. And even without that, we have a much less egalitarian society with a large underclass and widespread distrust of the police among sizable segments of the population. There's every reason to believe our reporting rate is an order of magnitude worse than Sweden's.

[Johanna]

I just get the feeling that Anjak is one of those that think that I should get raped for being
1. a woman who dares to speak up
2. an asexual woman

[Anjak]

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You're a guy, aren't you?

I am a woman..and I just found out few days ago that one of my friends was raped. I'm just hearing this too much lately, in stockholm. there was a horrible incident few years back with another friend and the feeling of hearing this knowing that person life were destroyed is horrible.

linguoboy -->

This phenomena in Sweden -sorry to say- became bigger due to immigration. I'll simplify: imagine u.s open its borders to X country..and all of a sudden the rape rates r sky rocketing and linked directly to X citizens. ..although you are not allowed legally to say that these citizens are 'x citizens' . therefor u cannot address the problem.

[linguoboy]

and so, these statistics must be false.

Why? Simply because you don't agree with them?

In that case, I choose to disbelieve that Sweden has the second-most competitive economy in the world. After all, it's a socialist country and everyone knows that socialism destroys the economy. All those economists and social scientists who say otherwise must simply be lying.

This phenomena in Sweden -sorry to say- became bigger due to immigration.

99% of the US population are immigrants or the descendents of immigrants. So if sexual violence is linked to immigration, then, once again, you'd expect the incidence to be an order of magnitude higher in the US.

[Anjak]

Anjak wrote:and so, these statistics must be false.


Why? Simply because you don't agree with them?

I was cynic ..ofcourse I agree with the statistics..I expressed my concern about them in my post..

[Johanna]

Well, that people choose to speak up and not just bury it should be a good thing then!

And like I said, we've got a lot more things sorted under "rape" than most of the world.

Being raped in Stockholm should give you the best odds of getting the bastard convicted, about 1% instead of 0.01%!

[Anjak]

Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse, which is initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or with a person who is incapable of valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, or below the legal age of consent.The term is most often defined in criminal law.

A rape is a rape . please do not under estimate the term.
1 of 4 women is a lot.

[Johanna]

I'm fully aware of what rape is, and I still state that the reasons why our statistics are high are:
1) there's less shame involved than in most other places, leading to more reports;
2) more types of sexual assault are considered rape legally.

[Anjak]

I understand Johanna, Thanks for replying ..and I see you understand many languages.

I refer you to a news report from Oslo .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r58rUuU0hXU

If these statistics in Sweden related to less shame [as you say], then Norwegian statistics suddenly rise due to same reason. if that's the case then there is no problem until proven otherwise. I guess only time will tell.

[Johanna]

The rapes committed by guys attacking a random girl outside? Those get like a 100% report rate, no shame about those... except when you go to court and the defence lawyer asks about the length of your skirt.

The ones committed by boyfriends and male friends and acquaintances though... The kind that usually goes unreported, but not so much in Sweden

Oh, and by they way, we've had a couple of bad serial rapists in Sweden, attacking random girls who they didn't know before. All those rapists were ethnic Swedes.

[Bao]

Please read this, Anjak

"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.

"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372

[md0]

It's pretty clear that this user's sole purpose is to rant against immigration and/or Islam. I would have more respect for them if they could do that without hiding behind a very serious danger women and men face every day, something absolutely disrespectful to the survivors of this crime, and do it with coherent arguments, not by misrepresenting statistics.

[Anjak]

New postby meidei on 2013-02-14, 23:43
It's pretty clear that this user's sole purpose is to rant against immigration and/or Islam.

Dear meidei - you divert the subject to 'racism' and ignore the fact that there is a real problem. if this would have happen to you or one of your relatives and you would read this post - would you understand how much you are wrong by the diverting the subject?

I have no problem against Islam or religious ppl..but I do have a problem with Anarchy.

[Bao]

I have no problem against Islam or religious ppl..but I do have a problem with Anarchy.

Uhm, you do understand what anarchy means, and why it is a detrimental concept to theocracy?

As for the immigration issue; it is a natural bias of the human brain to see causality where it can see correlation. Never forget that unless you have proof for a causality, or the probability of it being simple chance is known as very low, you can't treat the correlation as a causality. We know there have been increased efforts in Sweden to make rape reporting more accurate, and these had an effect throughout the last decade. Any other development that occured at the same time has to be looked at under the light of it probably being less important than the changes in the legal system and public opinion that lead to a higher report rate.

[Anjak]

Uhm, you do understand what anarchy means

BBC quotation: [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372]
"..
Comparing crime rates across countries is fraught with difficulties - this is well known among criminologists and statisticians, less so among journalists and commentators.

Sweden has the highest rape rate in Europe, author Naomi Wolf said on the BBC's Newsnight programme recently. ...

Is it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offenses - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.

This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year in Sweden's next-door neighbor, Norway, and twice the rate in the United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in India, which recorded about two offenses per 100,000 people."



Anarchy is when groups or individuals bypass the law, disrespect human rights and go on with it facing no judgment while the rest ignore their crimes. this is what will happen if no one will face this properly.

[Hoogstwaarschijnlijk]

I don't really understand why you all seems to be so... against Anjak from the start. Even though the statistics in Sweden may be higher because more rapes are reported, even though she may not be right that the number became higher because of immigration, it's still a shocking statistic.

Anjak wrote:

"The fact more women are brave to report only bold the fact that they were assaulted, for it's linear to the assault."

I think this is so true. And when rapes in other countries are less reported, then that's even more depressing.

One thing I disagree with Anjak though: It seems that Sweden does care, because it's a good start when you want to stop these things to investigate the problem, try to get people report what has happened to them.