Soft and Hard Lithuanian pronunciation

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Soft and Hard Lithuanian pronunciation

Postby Strigo » 2003-03-07, 21:14

My friend, Evaldas, is teaching me a little of lithuanian, and he explain me soft and hard pronunciation, and he even recorded a cassette , bujt I didn't understand, can you explain me??
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Postby Axystos » 2003-03-08, 11:19

and he explain me soft and hard pronunciation

I think he means palatalization when he speaks about soft pronunciation.

Atia!

Do you mean ' ãčiū '? :)

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Postby Strigo » 2003-03-08, 12:37

No, it's Atia, which means Bye!. And I hope somebody can explain what palatization is.
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Re: Hi!

Postby Axystos » 2003-03-09, 18:10

Strigo wrote:No, it's Atia, which means Bye!. And I hope somebody can explain what palatization is.

According to my Lithuanian grammarbook, palatalization is the effect that letters are 'closely followed' by a 'y' (as in 'yes') sound. Personally I'd say that palatalized letters are pronounced with your tongue a bit against the palate (hence the name, I guess :roll: :)).
But any better or more official definition of palatalization is welcome.

Isn't the spanish 'ñ' the palatalized version of 'n'?

Daniel wrote:ãčiū ?
You sure that's the spelling? Maybe you mean "ačiu"?

We were both wrong. I was wrong about the ~ on the a, but the - on the u is correct.
Source: my Lithuanian - English dictionary. :)

And about that 'bye' thing: "Atia" is not in my dictionary (which doesn't mean that the word doesn't exist. It could be slang) and 'iki' is part of 'iki pasimatymo' which means something like 'until we meet again'.

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Postby Luís » 2003-03-09, 19:42

Axystos wrote:Personally I'd say that palatalized letters are pronounced with your tongue a bit against the palate (hence the name, I guess ).


Well, that's it :-D

Axystos wrote:Isn't the spanish 'ñ' the palatalized version of 'n'?


Yes. Also the Portuguese 'nh' is a palatalized 'n'. And 'lh' is a palatalized 'l', as Spanish 'll'... though that sound can really vary a lot inside Spain and wherever Spanish is spoken.
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Re: Soft and Hard Lithuanian pronunciation

Postby ascii » 2006-12-28, 4:55

Strigo wrote:Atia!


Like almost 4 years late, but he must have meant "Ate"

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Re: Soft and Hard Lithuanian pronunciation

Postby Mantaz » 2006-12-28, 7:31

ascii wrote:
Strigo wrote:Atia!


Like almost 4 years late, but he must have meant "Ate"


Actually it's „Atia“ [is pronounced same as „Ate“] ;)

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Postby desper » 2006-12-28, 12:29

The spelling is ate.

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Postby ascii » 2006-12-28, 13:28

So you're saying atia actually exists, or that he might have made that mistake because atia is pronounced like ate?

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Postby desper » 2006-12-28, 18:28

Ate is pronounced like atia. The e is pronounced a little bit more hardly than it would be in atia, though.

Some girls might write "atia" in chats, etc to make it sound softer (adding vowels softens the language and that sometimes happens). But the "atia" spelling is not gramatically correct, however.

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Postby ascii » 2006-12-28, 23:40

Ok, thank you.

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Postby Mantaz » 2006-12-29, 7:25

desper wrote:The spelling is ate.


Where did you get this? :) As far as I remember from school, „ate“ is a mistaken spelling.

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Postby Liisi » 2006-12-29, 8:01

I have seen in several different Lithuanian text books the spelling atia, not even once ate, and that´s how I have been taught by Lithuanians specialised in their native language, so I must say I´m really surprised by this discussion.

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Postby ascii » 2006-12-29, 13:42

Now I must say I'm really confused.

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Postby apkiautėlis » 2006-12-29, 20:40

ATE

Mantazai, neklaidink žmonių. Jiems ir taip sunku :).

http://www.vlkk.lt/konsultacijos/konsul ... 502_1.html

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Postby desper » 2006-12-31, 18:42

For those who still didn't get it: it's ate.

But yeah, even we can't remember the spelling of some words. I wonder how the foreigners should...

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Postby Mantaz » 2007-01-03, 7:03

apkiautėlis wrote:ATE

Mantazai, neklaidink žmonių. Jiems ir taip sunku :).

http://www.vlkk.lt/konsultacijos/konsul ... 502_1.html


Pats parašei „Ate“ ir davei nuorodą, kuri patvirtina, kad rašyba vis tik yra „Atia“ :D Šaunuoliai, nieko nepridursi ;)

Toje nuorodoje kalbama, kad šis žodelis turėtų būti apskritai nevartojamas, neva tai naujas skolinys, nors puikiai žinau, kad latviai taip pat turi tokį žodelį su tokia pat prasme :)

So for those who didn't get it, it's atia ;)

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Postby Liisi » 2007-01-03, 7:31

For those who still don´t get it: just use iki! :wink:

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Postby apkiautėlis » 2007-01-04, 17:16

Oi, atsiprašau. Nepastebėjau skliausteliuose to „ate“. Taip buvau įsitikinęs savo teisumu... :oops:

Iki! :D

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Postby desper » 2007-01-05, 22:07

What the hell. I still think it's ate. ;P

As for iki, it has a notion of 'till our next meeting' while at(e/ia) stands more for farewell.

Hmm, whatever.

Edit: as for the link, it gives both spellings, huh?


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