Kısa sorular / Short Questions

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Elaine » 2016-12-02, 0:25

Solarius wrote:I have a question about the genitive. I know that most nouns take -In as the suffix in the genitive, but are there any that take -m instead? Like if for example you were talking about a class's book, in which you are a part of class, would one say:

Sınıfım kitabı

Or would one say

Sınıfın kitabı?

Thanks!


"Sınıfın kitabı" means the class' book. "A class' book" would be "Sınıf kitabı" or "Bir sınıfın kitabı".
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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby phyavuz » 2016-12-04, 5:14

Solarius wrote:I have a question about the genitive. I know that most nouns take -In as the suffix in the genitive, but are there any that take -m instead? Like if for example you were talking about a class's book, in which you are a part of class, would one say:

Sınıfım kitabı

Or would one say

Sınıfın kitabı?

Thanks!


You have to say:

Sınıfımın Kitabı

which means "My class's book".

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby nadi » 2017-01-29, 22:59

Solarius wrote:I have a question about the genitive. I know that most nouns take -In as the suffix in the genitive, but are there any that take -m instead? Like if for example you were talking about a class's book, in which you are a part of class, would one say:

Sınıfım kitabı

Or would one say

Sınıfın kitabı?

Thanks!


No, "sınıfım kitabı" is wrong. Here are some alternative expressions depending on what you might want to say:

Sınıfın kitabı = the book of the class
Sınıf kitabı = the book of a class
Sınıfımın kitabı = the book of my class


Be careful! "-m" is the suffix which means "my". Here are some examples:

para = money param = my money
halı = carpet halım = my carpet
kedi = cat kedim = my cat

If you have noticed, all these three examples above end in a vowel and the suffix is "-m". When a noun ends in a consonant, the suffix changes like the examples below:

ev = house evim = my house
saç = hair saçım = my hair
okul = school okulum = my school
düğün = wedding düğünüm = my wedding

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-02, 2:18

Does başkenti bu şehir ülke mean 'the country of which this city is the capital'?

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Postby md0 » 2017-03-18, 21:20

Türkçe'de "teperleme" gibi bir kelime var mı? Bu sabah iş akardaşım, Kıbrıs Rumca'da /tɛpːʰɛrlɛmɛ/ dedi, ve şimdi atimoloji arıyorum. Anlamı "full to the brim".

Is there a word like "teperleme" in Turkish? This morning a coworked used /tɛpːʰɛrlɛmɛ/ in CyG, and now I'm trying to find the etymology. The meaning was "full to the brim".
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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Michael » 2017-03-31, 20:01

md0 wrote:Türkçe'de "teperleme" gibi bir kelime var mı? Bu sabah iş akardaşım, Kıbrıs Rumca'da /tɛpːʰɛrlɛmɛ/ dedi, ve şimdi atimoloji arıyorum. Anlamı "full to the brim".

Mümkünse o kelimeyle bağlantılı değil, ancak Arnavutça'da tepër kelimesi var, anlamı "extremely, too much". Ama aradığım Türkçe sözlüğünde değildi. O, tuhaftır, çünkü Türkçe'den çıktığı bir söze benzediyor!
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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby voron » 2017-03-31, 20:37

Michael wrote:benzediyor

Benzetmek is not benz+etmek, it's benze+t(causative suffix)+mek, so its present tense is "benzetiyor".

In your sentence, you need "benzemek" though.

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby sage_velgard » 2017-03-31, 22:34

md0 wrote:Türkçe'de "teperleme" gibi bir kelime var mı? Bu sabah iş akardaşım, Kıbrıs Rumca'da /tɛpːʰɛrlɛmɛ/ dedi, ve şimdi atimoloji arıyorum. Anlamı "full to the brim".

Is there a word like "teperleme" in Turkish? This morning a coworked used /tɛpːʰɛrlɛmɛ/ in CyG, and now I'm trying to find the etymology. The meaning was "full to the brim".


it is "tepeleme". "tepe" means hill, top, peak etc...

http://nisanyansozluk.com/?k=tepe

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby sage_velgard » 2017-03-31, 22:37

vijayjohn wrote:Does başkenti bu şehir ülke mean 'the country of which this city is the capital'?


başkenti bu şehir olan ülke

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Dr. House » 2017-05-06, 11:12

I just learned about bu , Şu and o.

In the sentence : bak arkadaşım şurada , can I change the last word to burada and orada respectively?

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby voron » 2017-05-07, 12:51

Dr. House wrote:In the sentence : bak arkadaşım şurada, can I change the last word to burada and orada respectively?

Yes, sure you can. Burada is somewhere immediately next to you, şurada is close, orada is far.

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Dr. House » 2017-05-08, 7:49

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Dr. House wrote:In the sentence : bak arkadaşım şurada, can I change the last word to burada and orada respectively?

Yes, sure you can. Burada is somewhere immediately next to you, şurada is close, orada is far.


Thanks. The other day I saw a press conference with Erdoğan and Putin. The interpreter had harder time translating what Erdoğan was saying probably, because he had to wait for the sentence to end before he could successfuly translate what was being said. Is it because the verb is at the very end and you have to wait for it to uncover the meaning?

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby voron » 2017-05-08, 9:01

Dr. House wrote:The other day I saw a press conference with Erdoğan and Putin. The interpreter had harder time translating what Erdoğan was saying probably, because he had to wait for the sentence to end before he could successfuly translate what was being said. Is it because the verb is at the very end and you have to wait for it to uncover the meaning?

Yes, it's a known issue of translating between Turkish and an IE language, not only because the verb is in the end, but also because of the left branching syntax of Turkish. The translator has to wait until the end of the sentence until they can start translating.

For example, the sentence: "This is the cat who lives in the house that Jack built" in Turkish will sound like:
Bu, Jack'in inşa ettiği evde yaşayan kedi.
Which is literally:
This, by Jack built in house living cat.

The left branching is also a problem when subtitling films in Turkish. If a sentence in the subtitle doesn't fit the screen and has to be split in 2 parts, A and B, it is often the case that when the character is saying A the part B is shown, and then vice versa.

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Dr. House » 2017-05-09, 15:11

voron wrote:
Dr. House wrote:The other day I saw a press conference with Erdoğan and Putin. The interpreter had harder time translating what Erdoğan was saying probably, because he had to wait for the sentence to end before he could successfuly translate what was being said. Is it because the verb is at the very end and you have to wait for it to uncover the meaning?

Yes, it's a known issue of translating between Turkish and an IE language, not only because the verb is in the end, but also because of the left branching syntax of Turkish. The translator has to wait until the end of the sentence until they can start translating.

For example, the sentence: "This is the cat who lives in the house that Jack built" in Turkish will sound like:
Bu, Jack'in inşa ettiği evde yaşayan kedi.
Which is literally:
This, by Jack built in house living cat.

The left branching is also a problem when subtitling films in Turkish. If a sentence in the subtitle doesn't fit the screen and has to be split in 2 parts, A and B, it is often the case that when the character is saying A the part B is shown, and then vice versa.


Yeah. This is similar to Japanese. "Tomorrow 7 o'clock at Tanaka mr. with dinner (particle) eat. :)

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby buzulkusu » 2017-05-29, 23:09

Solarius wrote:I have a question about the genitive. I know that most nouns take -In as the suffix in the genitive, but are there any that take -m instead? Like if for example you were talking about a class's book, in which you are a part of class, would one say:

Sınıfım kitabı

Or would one say

Sınıfın kitabı?

Thanks!


Ders kitabı mı diyorsunuz, yoklama defteri mi diyorsunuz?

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Dr. House » 2017-06-10, 8:42

Yesterday I heard tamilce pronounced as tsamilce. Is this a dialectal thing?

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby kabraxis » 2017-07-19, 16:57

Dr. House wrote:Yesterday I heard tamilce pronounced as tsamilce. Is this a dialectal thing?

Probably the speaker is a lisper, or have a strong Balkan accent

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Re: Kısa sorular / Short Questions

Postby Dr. House » 2017-07-20, 17:16

Thanks. ;)


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