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help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2008-12-26, 9:35

I need help. Tell me hvis one is correct
sg.
N. magister
G. magisti or magistri ?
D. magisto or magistro ?
Acc. magistum or magistrum ?
Abl. magisto or magistro ?
V. magister

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N. magistri
G. magistorum or magistrorum
D. magistis or magistris
Acc. magisos or magistros
Abl. magistis or magistris
V. magisti or magistri

I really don't know :/ Please, help me, if you know.

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Nukalurk » 2008-12-26, 10:00

Casus: Singularis - Pluralis
Nominativus: magister - magistri
Genitivus: magistri - magistrorum
Dativus: magistro - magistris
Accusativus: magistrum - magistros
Ablativus: magistro - magistris
Vocativus: magister - magistri

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2008-12-26, 10:07

Vilen Dank! Gratiae!

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby nighean-neonach » 2008-12-26, 11:33

What happens here is called synkope - an unstressed vowel is eliminated:
magister - magisteri -> magistri.
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2008-12-27, 13:03

I didn't know about that. I missed this lesson. So, thanks for information, nighean-neonach

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2008-12-27, 14:13

Most Latin books don't explain about that, they just leave learners wondering :)
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2008-12-27, 17:58

I have one more question. What's the ablativus and dativus form of sententia in plural form? "Sententis" or "sententiis" with double "i"? I really don't know.

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2008-12-27, 18:11

With double i of course :)
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Postby lama su » 2008-12-27, 19:24

Martine wrote:I have one more question. What's the ablativus and dativus form of sententia in plural form? "Sententis" or "sententiis" with double "i"? I really don't know.


theorically double "i", but it can also be written with only one "i" (in this case, it's a contraction). Both are correct.

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2008-12-28, 11:24

I wrote with double. Thanks a lot lama su , nighean-neonach

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Postby nighean-neonach » 2008-12-28, 11:25

In books for learners it is usually with double i because that's more regular. In original texts you will find all sorts of different spellings with various words, but that's not something you should worry about while you are still at the stage of memorising declension tables :)
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2009-01-24, 9:09

I need help again. I really need to know how to say in Latin "all roads lead to Rome" (in Italian "Tutte le strade portano a Roma"). I hope this proverb also existed in Latin.

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Postby Babelfish » 2009-01-24, 18:21

"Omnes viae Romam ducunt" seems to be a common translation, at least in Google :) I don't know if it's "official" but it means the same.

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Postby KingHarvest » 2009-01-25, 0:54

I don't believe it was a proverb when the Romans actually were around, but I could be wrong.
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2009-01-25, 15:31

Thank you very much. Do you know some Latin proverbs connected with education? I know just
Scientia nulla res praestantior - Nothing is more important than wisdom

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby KingHarvest » 2009-01-25, 15:50

Disce aut discede - Learn or get out.
Most men are rather stupid, and most of those who are not stupid are, consequently, rather vain.
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2009-01-31, 17:07

Thank you a lot :)

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2009-04-30, 17:32

It's difficult for me to translate one text. I don't understand some words:
Contecta and aere
Gorgones autem monstra erant specie horribili; capita enim earum anguibus omnino contecta erant. Manus etiam ex aere factae erant.

I have also some grammar exercises.... Some of them are very easy, but the other ones...
In......... (mortale corpus)............. (immoralis anima) inesse philosophi Graeci docent.
I've got to write the right form. I think that corpora is correct, but what about mortale?

If you know, please help me :)

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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby KingHarvest » 2009-04-30, 19:02

The Gorgons were monsters with a horrible appearance. Their heads were covered (the root verb is tego, tegere, texi, tectus) with snakes. Their hands were made from bronze.

mortali corpore, immortalem animam.
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Re: help me! (magister- magistri)

Postby Martine » 2009-05-01, 13:34

Thanks you a lot! :)


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