Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

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Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Pliigi » 2010-04-30, 10:03

Sorry about asking this in English. What's the proper pronunciation of the word "Pliigi" in Esperanto? I don't know how to read the international phonetic alphabet, by the way, so if you could sound it out that would be great. Thanks.

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Formiko » 2010-04-30, 22:42

Pliigi wrote:Sorry about asking this in English. What's the proper pronunciation of the word "Pliigi" in Esperanto? I don't know how to read the international phonetic alphabet, by the way, so if you could sound it out that would be great. Thanks.


Pliigi is "to make more" and it is two roots
pli and igi, the easiest was to pronounce it using English phonetics would be like this:
pleeyéégee
(éé denotes stress)
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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Gbelle » 2010-05-01, 5:17

pli means more? so it is like plu in LFN?

pli = more?
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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Formiko » 2010-05-01, 8:40

Gbelle wrote:pli means more? so it is like plu in LFN?

pli = more?

Yes, but there are 2 ways of saying more in Esperanto..
pli and plu

Pli is a comparative more..like I want more food. (Mi volas pli manĝaĵon)
Plu means further..like I want to sleep more (Mi plu volas dormi)
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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Psittakos » 2010-09-26, 11:42

There's some words in Esperanto wich are impossible of pronounce, for example the infinitive of some verbs wich stem ends by -j, such as "boji" <to bark>...

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Narbleh » 2010-09-26, 16:10

Why is that impossible to pronounce? If you can say "year", you can say "boji".
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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Psittakos » 2010-09-27, 9:50

You're right, I didn't notice it, but before I believed the diptong /ji/ was samely pronounced as /i/ by itself.

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby xBlackWolfx » 2010-09-27, 22:21

It should be 'plee EE gee'. In most cases (maybe all of them) where you see two identical vowels next to each other, one of them will be stressed and the other will be unstressed.

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Formiko » 2010-09-27, 23:07

xBlackWolfx wrote:It should be 'plee EE gee'. In most cases (maybe all of them) where you see two identical vowels next to each other, one of them will be stressed and the other will be unstressed.

Like ree (Again). I usually just hold it a little longer
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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Psittakos » 2010-09-29, 8:04

xBlackWolfx wrote:It should be 'plee EE gee'. In most cases (maybe all of them) where you see two identical vowels next to each other, one of them will be stressed and the other will be unstressed.


The point is until now when you had notized me, my pronunciation of "year" was wrong =/jar/

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby mafke » 2010-10-05, 7:12

As far as I know there is no one 'correct' way of pronouncing pliigi (and ree and heroo and ghuu and firmaa). Well, theoretically just pronouncing two separate but identical vowels is correct but that's harder to do than most people realize.

The two main strategies (that I've heard) seem to be

1. try to pronounce two separate vowels and end up with some kind of glide between them

2. separate them with a glottal stop

I usually end up doing the first.

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Re: Proper Pronunciation of Pliigi?

Postby Formiko » 2010-10-05, 8:25

mafke wrote:As far as I know there is no one 'correct' way of pronouncing pliigi (and ree and heroo and ghuu and firmaa). Well, theoretically just pronouncing two separate but identical vowels is correct but that's harder to do than most people realize.

The two main strategies (that I've heard) seem to be

1. try to pronounce two separate vowels and end up with some kind of glide between them

2. separate them with a glottal stop

I usually end up doing the first.

Also, the stress reflects the double vowel:
pliígi
rée
heróo (if it were just hero it would be stressed like so: héro)
fimáa (because firma is a different word)
firma streso and firmaa streso mean very different things :)
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