Which language is most similar to Italian?

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Koko » 2014-06-06, 6:13

I read somewhere that Neapolitan has avè meaning to have. Would this then be used only as the Colima rather than in reference to physical possession?

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby ~jakip » 2014-06-06, 8:43

Koko wrote:I read somewhere that Neapolitan has avè meaning to have. Would this then be used only as the Colima rather than in reference to physical possession?

Also in Milanese avè means to have but only as auxiliar, if you want to mean a possesion you have to put "ghe" (gh'hoo, gh'hee(t), gh'haa, ...).
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Saim » 2014-06-06, 9:18

Is ghe a pronoun? Like Italian ci, French y, Catalan hi...

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby ~jakip » 2014-06-06, 11:39

Yes, it's a pronoun. It's used as well as state in place (gh'è, gh'era, ... that correspond to c'è, c'era, ... in Italian).
It's incredible how it influenced the Milan's Italian speaker because they say "c'ho" (gh'hoo) to say "I have" which is wrong in Italian, but right in Milanese.
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby OldBoring » 2014-06-06, 11:58

~jakip wrote:It's incredible how it influenced the Milan's Italian speaker because they say "c'ho" (gh'hoo) to say "I have" which is wrong in Italian, but right in Milanese.

We also say that in Rome, both in Romanesco and in the local Italian. :D

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-06-06, 14:24

It's incredible how it influenced the Milan's Italian speaker because they say "c'ho" (gh'hoo) to say "I have" which is wrong in Italian, but right in Milanese.


It's used in Florence too.

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Koko » 2014-06-06, 22:18

How would "c'ho" be pronounced? As normal? Or does it sound like "cio?"

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby ~jakip » 2014-06-07, 4:59

Koko wrote:How would "c'ho" be pronounced? As normal? Or does it sound like "cio?"

It sounds like the word "ciò".

P.S. for Koko: don't use it in the written texts, NEVER! :yep:
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby OldBoring » 2014-06-07, 5:17

That's why pedantic people say that it's wrong to write "c'ho", that we should write "ci ho" or "ciò"...

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Koko » 2014-06-07, 6:46

~jakip wrote:
Koko wrote:How would "c'ho" be pronounced? As normal? Or does it sound like "cio?"

It sounds like the word "ciò".

P.S. for Koko: don't use it in the written texts, NEVER! :yep:

Haha, grazie per il consiglio. It would take me forever to be able to use it anyways: it seems like a coloquialism, and I tend to steer away from those even with my friends ^^

BTW: I've been wondering if it has been okay for me to use -i with you, jakip. Especially since that's what I used since forever rather than formal -a.


I kind of agree with Youngfun; it would certainly clear up confusion for a lot of people. It's not my place to change it (c'ho looks much better anyways) but I'd suggest ci'ho because then it sounds more like one word rather than ci ho.

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby ~jakip » 2014-06-07, 14:59

Koko wrote:BTW: I've been wondering if it has been okay for me to use -i with you, jakip. Especially since that's what I used since forever rather than formal -a.

Use the informal one, since I'm not an important person or a foreign (or yes? Ahah) ;)

By the way the answer to the thread's title is: "Spanish". It could seem I'm one of the people who says that just because everybody thinks that, but I can't find anything as closer to Italian as Spanish.
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby ~jakip » 2014-06-07, 14:59

Koko wrote:BTW: I've been wondering if it has been okay for me to use -i with you, jakip. Especially since that's what I used since forever rather than formal -a.

Use the informal one, since I'm not an important person or a foreign (or yes? Ahah) ;)

By the way the answer to the thread's title is: "Spanish". It could seem I'm one of the people who says that just because everybody thinks that, but I can't find anything as closer to Italian as Spanish.
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Itikar » 2014-06-10, 10:24

Youngfun wrote:That's why pedantic people say that it's wrong to write "c'ho", that we should write "ci ho" or "ciò"...

I feel somewhat mentioned. :para:

Anyway "c'ho" is the elision of "che ho". I use it sometimes to reproduce the elision of the relative pronoun "che" that I do sometimes in the spoken.

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby TeneReef » 2014-06-10, 15:38

Corsican is most similar to Italian.
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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby IpseDixit » 2014-06-10, 15:39

TeneReef wrote:Corsican is most similar to Italian.


Maybe you should read the entire question :)

Spanish, French, or Portuguese? Which one is most similar to Italian?

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Re: Which language is most similar to Italian?

Postby Massimiliano B » 2014-06-12, 21:36

French!


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