French-Italian False Cognates

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French-Italian False Cognates

Postby Solairne » 2009-05-03, 15:44

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I'm an American that speaks near-native French (as well as a good amount of German). I've looked online and so far only found a list of false cognates between English and Italian (most of which look exactly like false cognates between English and French : attendre vs assister vs aider) and I was wondering if any of you kind folk could give me some cognates between French and Italian that might be a throw off.

I'd also love a list of pitfalls in learning Italian for somebody who speaks French, such as grammar issues. I'm not so much looking for problems for an English speaker learning Italian.

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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby Solairne » 2009-05-06, 1:22

2 days and no response? ;_;
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-05-06, 1:37

Solairne wrote:2 days and no response? ;_;

Sorry!

This forum usually is pretty slow though. :P

And I can't really think of any false cognates...
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby Solairne » 2009-05-06, 4:08

I can't find anything online in either English or French, I'm starting to wonder if they're all true cognates lol
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby yvonne_v » 2009-05-08, 21:26

You can find a list here, but it's in Italian.

In the first column you find the French word, in the second the Italian word it looks like, in the third what the French actually means and in the last one how to translate the Italian word (the one in the second column) properly.

Another false friend that isn't on that list is ville. In Italian you say "città" for "city" and "villa" for, well, villa :wink:
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby yvonne_v » 2009-05-08, 21:31

Oops, I've just noticed I gave you a list of false friends while you were actually looking for false cognates. :oops:
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby Solairne » 2009-05-09, 2:07

yvonne_v wrote:Oops, I've just noticed I gave you a list of false friends while you were actually looking for false cognates. :oops:



D: Are false friends and false cognates not the same thing? I hope I haven't been making a mistake saying them interchangeably the past few years...

The list you gave me was exactly what I was looking for. Very interesting!

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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby yvonne_v » 2009-05-09, 18:02

Solairne wrote:D: Are false friends and false cognates not the same thing? I hope I haven't been making a mistake saying them interchangeably the past few years...


They're not, false cognates are words that look the same and have the same meaning but have different roots.
Don't worry though, according to wikipedia it's quite common to mistake the two ("The term "false cognate" is sometimes used incorrectly for false friend.") :wink:

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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby Solairne » 2009-05-09, 18:14

yvonne_v wrote:
Solairne wrote:D: Are false friends and false cognates not the same thing? I hope I haven't been making a mistake saying them interchangeably the past few years...


They're not, false cognates are words that look the same and have the same meaning but have different roots.
Don't worry though, according to wikipedia it's quite common to mistake the two ("The term "false cognate" is sometimes used incorrectly for false friend.") :wink:

False friend
False cognate


Interesting, so a false cognate and be a "true" friend...
I learned something today! lol
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Re: French-Italian False Cognates

Postby ILuvEire » 2009-05-09, 19:24

Oh, so like English "name" and Japanese "namae?"
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