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Postby Loiks » 2005-12-04, 15:01

eurooplane wrote:What about the genitive? clermont-ferrand'i with i (like Harry Potteri)
How do you say for people from Kohtla-Järve, kohtla-järvelased? kohtlalased?


Clermont-Ferrand'i, kohtlajärvelased. -lane and -ne puts always words together. Kohtla-Järve is a difficult city, something like the Lille region in France (smaller scale of course). The hub of oil-shale mining and industry, a constructed city out of many parts away from each other, russianized during Soviet times.

The oil-shale is actually kind of national proud. The mining and industrial development started in 1920's and in late 1930's even our own gasoline was produced out of it (well the German Wehrmacht used it :oops: ). Biggest industries were Riigi Põlevkivitööstus and a/s Eesti Kiviõli (you can see a town called by it on the map). Now there is AS Eesti Põlevkivi. All the Estonian electricity is produced by burning oil-shale in two Narva power plants of Eesti Energia.

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Postby eurooplane » 2005-12-04, 20:51

I think you’re talking about unemployment, unsecurity, HIV etc.
Where is it more difficult in the country ?
And are there problems in the suburbs of towns ?
In France, during the reign of Mitterrand, families of emigrants entered massively in the country and were piled up in sad buildings. They were isolated and in a consequence, young people grow up differently. It causes lot of unsecurity and racism against emigrants and against Frenchs. The facts are more complex, but it is not the matter of this topic…

Another question, what is the position of Estonia concerning recycling energies ?

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Postby Loiks » 2005-12-04, 21:34

eurooplane wrote:I think you’re talking about unemployment, unsecurity, HIV etc.
Where is it more difficult in the country ?
And are there problems in the suburbs of towns ?
In France, during the reign of Mitterrand, families of emigrants entered massively in the country and were piled up in sad buildings. They were isolated and in a consequence, young people grow up differently. It causes lot of unsecurity and racism against emigrants and against Frenchs. The facts are more complex, but it is not the matter of this topic…

Another question, what is the position of Estonia concerning recycling energies ?


Exactly, the Ida-Virumaa county's towns are kind of dirty industrial towns, inhabited by Russian colonists (in Narva there are 5% of Estonians, in Sillamäe even less). Narva was bombed into a wreckage in 1944 by Soviets and no Estonians were allowed to come back to their hometown. The difference between France and Estonia is that we (or our president) didn't choose it voluntarily, we were occupied and colonized. Now we have to handle this only Russian speaking Soviet minded stupid mass of people that accuses our government of breaking international rules of human rights. It's like Algeria during de Gaulle's time (sorry if I'm wrong but I think it's exactly equal). The problem of unimployment is so big because there is no will of learning Estonian. Maybe I'm a blind nationalist but I would ask: why don't you go back to from where you came from? In here really nobody has asked anybody to come here, everybody was forced. I know that learning minor language is a kind of insolvement to a representative of a big nation but on the other hand we must have our rights in our own country too, don't we?

We have some wind energy on islands and coastline and some hydroplants but they produce some 5% of all the energy maybe.

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Postby eurooplane » 2005-12-06, 20:19

I agree.
Maybe I'm a blind nationalist but I would ask: why don't you go back to from where you came from?
Sincerely, I don’t think it’s blind-nationalism.
Child, I lived among emigrants (at school) and I know what is it to belong to minority in one’s own country. In front of violence, you cannot say sth else, even if it's taboo. It’s only now, perhaps since 2003 or 2004, that TV news are talking about « racisme anti-blancs ». It’s a little late because the censorship and brain-wash directly feed extreme-left parties (LCR: Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire) and indirectly, extreme-right (FN: Front National). ‘Democratic parties’ are more and more divided and weakened. You certainly remember the ‘no’ for constitution… Well, ‘no’ was supported by extreme parties, whereas ‘yes’ by usual parties, and that’s why most of people voted no without to kwon what the constitution deals with.
And you remember the presidential elections in 2002, FN ahead socialists, it’s not impossible in 2007… :?

Tell the truth is not blind nationalism, not to tell causes the real nationalism.

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Postby MandoMarit » 2006-07-17, 21:10

Tere!
Since I just started to learn my first estonian words about four days ago, I'm not really able to write in estonian yet. I've ordered my textbook though, so hopefully in time I will be able to participate more in thsi forum.
Anyway, I'll write my presentation in english, and would be very thankful if someone could translate it to estonian!

My name is Marit, I'm borned and raised in Norway, but I am swedish. I play traditional scandinavian music (scandinavian folk music as we say) and have fallen in love with the estonian folk music, those labajalgs are great! I've also started to become more and more fascinated by the language, and as I have some estonian friends I thought I would try to learn some. I am going to Estonia for the first time in a month, to participate as a leader in an estonian folkmusic camp.

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Postby Loiks » 2006-07-18, 16:02

MandoMarit wrote:Tere!
Since I just started to learn my first estonian words about four days ago, I'm not really able to write in estonian yet. I've ordered my textbook though, so hopefully in time I will be able to participate more in thsi forum.
Anyway, I'll write my presentation in english, and would be very thankful if someone could translate it to estonian!

My name is Marit, I'm borned and raised in Norway, but I am swedish. I play traditional scandinavian music (scandinavian folk music as we say) and have fallen in love with the estonian folk music, those labajalgs are great! I've also started to become more and more fascinated by the language, and as I have some estonian friends I thought I would try to learn some. I am going to Estonia for the first time in a month, to participate as a leader in an estonian folkmusic camp.


Tere, Marit!

Here's the translation:

Minu nimi on Marit, ma olen sündinud ja kasvanud Norras, aga ma olen rootslane. Ma mängin traditsioonilist skandinaavia muusikat (skandinaavia rahvamuusikat, nagu me ütleme) ja olen armunud eesti rahvamuusikasse, need labajalad on suurepärased! Ma olen ka hakanud olema järjest rohkem huvitatud keelest ja et mul on eesti sõpru, mõtlesin ma, et proovin seda õppida. Ma lähen esimest korda Eestisse sel kuul, et võtta läbiviijana osa eesti rahvamuusika laagrist.

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Postby Aodh » 2006-08-06, 10:09

tere kõik see pere!

Olen 19-aastane, peagi üliõpilase staatusesse tõusev unistaja, kel sooviks ära õppida iiri keel ning aidata kõiki neid, kes soovivad õppida eesti keelt.
Viibisin just hiljuti Iirimaal (kas mu iiri-vaimustus pole mitte liigagi ilmne? :D), ilma vähemagi liialduseta väidan, et see on maailma kõige ilusam maa. Leidsin sealt palju enamat, kui lihtsalt sõpru ja toredaid tuttavaid ;)
Igal juhul loodan, et hakkan siin tihedalt käima ning kõik. kes soovivad mu abi, võivad iga kell küsida..

Hello everyone!

I am a 19-year-old, soon to become a student of a dreamer, who wishes to learn Irish and help all those who wish to learn Estonian. I was recently in Ireland (isnt my Irish-obsession even bit too obvious? :D), without any exaggeration I claim that it is the most beautiful country in the world. I found much more from there than just friends and good acquaintances ;)
At any rate, I hope to visit this place quite often and all whom require my help, can ask me any time...

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Postby Loiks » 2006-08-06, 10:34

Tere tulemast!

Olin isegi kunagi (ja veel praegugi) keldi teema fänn, aga kui tund maksis 100 kr, loobusin.

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Postby Aodh » 2006-08-06, 11:05

Siin kuskil saab tunde võtta? :shock: Ma olen otsinud aga leidnud küll pole.. Räägi lähemalt..

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Postby Loiks » 2006-08-07, 16:04

Noh, see oli à la 5 a tagasi Tartus. Seal oli keegi sakslane, kes oskab vabalt iiri keelt. Mingid häälduse põhimõtted sain ta käest isegi selgeks, aga need on jube keerulised :).

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Postby Aodh » 2006-08-27, 12:09

Loiks wrote:Noh, see oli à la 5 a tagasi Tartus. Seal oli keegi sakslane, kes oskab vabalt iiri keelt. Mingid häälduse põhimõtted sain ta käest isegi selgeks, aga need on jube keerulised :).

: hea küll. Tean seda häälduse asja juba omast käest. Tartu on natuke liiga kaugel kahjuks :(

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Postby Loiks » 2006-08-27, 12:35

Siin on ju iiri foorum täitsa olemas tegelikult, küllap sealt saab abi.


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