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Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-07, 13:10
by aaakknu
Here is a very important discussion concerning the future of these subforums: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=52635 (look at the last pages)

There was a suggestion to merge all the three subforums and make a general "Uralic languages" subforum. I and other users of our subforum(s) have already expressed their opinion in that discussion, but in case you visit only language-specific subforums and haven't seen it yet, I write about it here.

I think that these languages, being national languages of independed states and having many active Unilang users interested in them, deserve forums of their own.

What do you think about it? Please vote and express your opinion here or in the thread I linked to above.

If you have another suggestion, not listed in the poll variants, write about it here and I'll include it as an option.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-09, 7:48
by ainurakne
I would have understood if they wanted to merge Finnic languages. But lumping together all Uralic languages seems a bit too much. After all, it's a lot of very different languages.

Nonetheless what ever happens in the end, I doubt it will change my life in any way.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-09, 17:15
by Antea
And in the Uralic forum reserved to the minority languages, couldn’t we have some sub-forums or some organisation for the threads of the different languages? Like for Votic, Karelian, etc :hmm: Or do we have to put all the threads inside corresponding to different languages, « mélangés » ?

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 10:13
by aaakknu
Antea wrote:And in the Uralic forum reserved to the minority languages, couldn’t we have some sub-forums or some organisation for the threads of the different languages? Like for Votic, Karelian, etc :hmm: Or do we have to put all the threads inside corresponding to different languages, « mélangés » ?

I don't know if it's possible to organize it like that. Maybe you should ask the admins. Somebody asked about this before, but I don't remember what the answer was.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 10:18
by aaakknu
Should I wait for more votes, or can I already write about the results in the "Subforums management discussion"?

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 10:26
by atalarikt
Irusia wrote:Should I wait for more votes, or can I already write about the results in the "Subforums management discussion"?

Talking about them won't hurt, the sooner the better (at least IMHO). :D

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 10:38
by Naava
I agree. It also seems unlikely we'd get enough voters to change the result even if we waited a year.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 15:20
by Linguaphile
atalarikt wrote:
Irusia wrote:Should I wait for more votes, or can I already write about the results in the "Subforums management discussion"?

Talking about them won't hurt, the sooner the better (at least IMHO). :D

I agree. Maybe over there they'll say we should wait longer, but at least they'll know what people here have said. I should probably do the same with the results of the survey on the Saami forum.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-10, 16:22
by księżycowy
It can't hurt to talk about the results, but it is possible some users only check the forum every few days. As I said to Linguaphile on the thread in the Info subforum, it can't hurt to wait at least a week before making a determination.

Though given these results, it'll take something crazy to knock out those 15 votes. :P

Irusia wrote:
Antea wrote:And in the Uralic forum reserved to the minority languages, couldn’t we have some sub-forums or some organisation for the threads of the different languages? Like for Votic, Karelian, etc :hmm: Or do we have to put all the threads inside corresponding to different languages, « mélangés » ?

I don't know if it's possible to organize it like that. Maybe you should ask the admins. Somebody asked about this before, but I don't remember what the answer was.

It seems it's possible, given what Luís has said before. But the question is, how would that work, and what would it look like.

Personally, I like the idea (especially for the "bigger" subforums, like mine), but we'd have to hash a few things out first.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-12, 8:48
by aaakknu
I added the link to the poll on my global announcement.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-15, 0:35
by Linguaphile
If anyone here is interested in the "other" Uralic languages which may someday have their own forum (i.e., Uralic languages besides Estonian, Finnish, and Hungarian), this list of links to various threads on Unilang (currently scattered in various forums) was created in the UL Uralic Café and I'd thought I'd post it here.

Uralic (general):
Uralic Languages Word-Association Game
Uralic Music
UL Uralic Café

Finno-Ugric (general)
Same Topic About Finno-Ugric Languages

Saamic (has its own forum)

Finnic (1)
Finnic (2)
Finnic (3)
Finnic (4)
UL Finnic Cafe (on the General Languages forum)
-- Finnish (has its own forum)
-- Estonian (has its own forum)
-- Karelian (Finnic thread)
-- Karelian (new thread)
-- Veps (Finnic thread)
-- Ingrian (Finnic thread)

-- Votic / Votian
-- Ludic
-- Livonian
-- Livonian (resources)
-- Livonian (on the General Language Forum)
-- Võro (thread on Estonian forum)


Mordvinic (Erzya, Moksha)
-- Erzya
-- Moksha


Mari
-- Meadow Mari
-- Hill Mari


Permic (Komi, Udmurt)
-- Komi
-- Udmurt


Hungarian (has its own forum)

Ob-Ugric (Khanty, Mansi)
Khanty and Mansi (on the Hungarian forum)
-- Mansi
-- Khanty

Samoyedic
-- Nenets
-- Enets
-- Selkup

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-22, 5:12
by Linguaphile
So it has been two weeks, and the results of the poll at this point seem fairly conclusive. :yep:
I posted a comment in the Language Subforums Management Discussion thread to share the results of the poll with those who are discussion this sort of thing over there.

Re: Future of Estonian, Finnish and Hungarian subforums

Posted: 2018-03-22, 5:14
by atalarikt
Linguaphile wrote:So it has been two weeks, and the results of the poll at this point seem fairly conclusive. :yep:
I posted a comment in the Language Subforums Management Discussion thread to share the results of the poll with those who are discussion this sort of thing over there.

Thank you very much!