Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

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Prantsis
Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Prantsis » 2019-05-05, 17:22

(et) kadalipp
(en) gauntlet

"To run the gauntlet is to take part in a form of corporal punishment in which the party judged guilty is forced to run between two rows of soldiers, who strike out and attack him." [Wikipedia]

The English word originates from Swedish gatlopp, from gata "lane" and lopp "course, running". The word in English was originally spelled gantelope or gantlope, but soon its pronunciation was influenced by the unrelated word gauntlet (derived from the French gantelet). [Wikipedia]

The Estonian word has the same Swedish origin and, just like its English counterpart, then underwent a popular reinterpretation under the influence of the Estonian lipp. [Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat]
Interestingly enough, EKKS signals it as a compound word, "kada|lipp", i.e. slingshot + flag.

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Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-05-05, 17:46

Prantsis wrote:(et) kadalipp
(en) gauntlet

"To run the gauntlet is to take part in a form of corporal punishment in which the party judged guilty is forced to run between two rows of soldiers, who strike out and attack him." [Wikipedia]

The English word originates from Swedish gatlopp, from gata "lane" and lopp "course, running". The word in English was originally spelled gantelope or gantlope, but soon its pronunciation was influenced by the unrelated word gauntlet (derived from the French gantelet). [Wikipedia]

The Estonian word has the same Swedish origin and, just like its English counterpart, then underwent a popular reinterpretation under the influence of the Estonian lipp. [Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat]
Interestingly enough, EKKS signals it as a compound word, "kada|lipp", i.e. slingshot + flag.

:D
The Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat (ETY) entry for kadalipp points out that even based on the Swedish etymology alone, it is a compound word: Laenuallikas on liitsõna, vrd rootsi gata 'tänav' ja rootsi lop(p) 'jooks'. But the association with "flag" is strong enough as a folk etymology that the word kadalipp is even linked from the entry for lipp in ETY too, and it also says Laenu muganemist on mõjutanud rahvaetümoloogiline tõlgendus, sõna lõpuosa on seostatud tüvega lipp.

On a related note, one of my favorites is the misinterpretation of the word salamander as a compound word meaning "secret (sala) continent (mander)". :D

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Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-07-05, 1:46

(et) läbi imbuma = (en) imbue

What I find interesting about this pair of words is that they have the same meaning and very similar sound but are not etymologically related.
imbuma etymologically comes from Proto-Finnic *imedäk "to suck".
imbue etymologically comes from Latin imbuo "to wet, moisten, tinge, stain".

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Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-08-09, 19:02

(et) virus vaulted top of a traditional oven (syn. ahjukumm, ahjuvomm)
(en) virus type of infectious disease (Est. viirus)

Prantsis

Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Prantsis » 2021-03-03, 23:32

Cognates:

(et) vasikas calf
(et) vats stomach, belly
(et) veteran veteran
(et) viiul violin

From the PIE root *wet- "year", which has given words meaning "old" or "calf, yearling..." in several IE languages.

vats has been traditionally regarded as a native Finno-Ugric word, but the hypothesis that it could actually be an early loan from Proto-Indo-Aryan is developed here.
The Latin word vitulari, "to frolic/skip like a calf" then "to be joyful/merry", is often mentioned as being the probable origin of violin.


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