Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

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Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Prantsis » 2019-05-05, 17:22

(et) kadalipp
(en) gauntlet

"To run the gauntlet is to take part in a form of corporal punishment in which the party judged guilty is forced to run between two rows of soldiers, who strike out and attack him." [Wikipedia]

The English word originates from Swedish gatlopp, from gata "lane" and lopp "course, running". The word in English was originally spelled gantelope or gantlope, but soon its pronunciation was influenced by the unrelated word gauntlet (derived from the French gantelet). [Wikipedia]

The Estonian word has the same Swedish origin and, just like its English counterpart, then underwent a popular reinterpretation under the influence of the Estonian lipp. [Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat]
Interestingly enough, EKKS signals it as a compound word, "kada|lipp", i.e. slingshot + flag.

Linguaphile
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Re: Sugulussõnad ja valesõbrad ja "kummalised sõbrad"

Postby Linguaphile » 2019-05-05, 17:46

Prantsis wrote:(et) kadalipp
(en) gauntlet

"To run the gauntlet is to take part in a form of corporal punishment in which the party judged guilty is forced to run between two rows of soldiers, who strike out and attack him." [Wikipedia]

The English word originates from Swedish gatlopp, from gata "lane" and lopp "course, running". The word in English was originally spelled gantelope or gantlope, but soon its pronunciation was influenced by the unrelated word gauntlet (derived from the French gantelet). [Wikipedia]

The Estonian word has the same Swedish origin and, just like its English counterpart, then underwent a popular reinterpretation under the influence of the Estonian lipp. [Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat]
Interestingly enough, EKKS signals it as a compound word, "kada|lipp", i.e. slingshot + flag.

:D
The Eesti etümoloogiasõnaraamat (ETY) entry for kadalipp points out that even based on the Swedish etymology alone, it is a compound word: Laenuallikas on liitsõna, vrd rootsi gata 'tänav' ja rootsi lop(p) 'jooks'. But the association with "flag" is strong enough as a folk etymology that the word kadalipp is even linked from the entry for lipp in ETY too, and it also says Laenu muganemist on mõjutanud rahvaetümoloogiline tõlgendus, sõna lõpuosa on seostatud tüvega lipp.

On a related note, one of my favorites is the misinterpretation of the word salamander as a compound word meaning "secret (sala) continent (mander)". :D


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