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Postby ego » 2007-11-30, 9:45

I don't

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Postby lishaoxuan » 2007-11-30, 13:46

I thought you'd know,ego.
Anyone else knows?

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Postby Kyr » 2007-11-30, 19:40

Ι found the text on these sites:
http://www.prato.linux.it/~lmasetti/ant ... 03&lang=en
http://www.politikokafeneio.com/~anatol ... i/kp18.htm


modern Greek

H ΔIEΘNHΣ

Εμπρός της γης οι κολασμένοι,
Της πείνας σκλάβοι εμπρός! Εμπρός!
Εμπρός το δίκιο απ’τον κρατήρα
Βγαίνει σαν βροντή, σαν κεραυνός.
Φτάνουν πια της σκλαβιάς τα χρόνια,
Tώρα εμείς οι ταπεινοί της γης
Που ζούσαμε στην καταφρόνια
Θα γίνουμε το παν εμείς.

Στον αγώνα ενωμένοι
Kι ας μη λείψει κανείς!
Ω νά τη! Μας προσμένει
Στον κόσμο η Διεθνής.
Στον αγώνα ενωμένοι
Kι ας μη λείψει κανείς!
O νά τη! Μας προσμένει
Στον κόσμο η Διεθνής.

Θεοί, αρχόντοι, βασιλιάδες
Με πλάνα λόγια μας γελούν,
Της γης οι δούλοι κι οι ραγιάδες
Μοναχοί τους θα σωθούν.
Για να λείψουν τα δεσμά μας
Για να πάψει πια η σκλαβιά
Nα νιώσουν πρέπει τη γροθιά μας
Kαι της ψυχής μας τη φωτιά.

Στον αγώνα ενωμένοι
Kι ας μη λείψει κανείς!
Ω νά τη! Mας προσμένει
Στον κόσμο η Διεθνής.
Στον αγώνα ενωμένοι
Kι ας μη λείψει κανείς!
Ω νά τη! Μας προσμένει
Στον κόσμο η Διεθνής.


But the most striking is this: Ancient Greek!
:shock:

ΤΩΝ ΕΡΓΑΤΩΝ ᾼΣΜΑ ΔΙΕΘΝΕΣ
ὑπὸ τoῦ Εὐγενείου Ποττιέρ καὶ τoῦ Πέτρου Δεγείτηρ συμποιηθέν

Στῆτε, τῆς γῆς ὦ ὑποταρτάριοι,
Στῆτε, τῆς πείνης ὦ ἐρέται
Ἐν τῷ κρατῆρι βρέμει ὁ λόγος
ἀφῖκται ἡ ἔκρηξις ἡ τελευταῖα.
Τὸν παρελθόντα χρόνον χρῆ ἀφανῖσαι
ὧ δούλων ὂχλοι στῆτε, στῆτε
Μεταθεμελιοῦται ὁ κόσμος
ἀντ’οὐδενὸς γενοῦμεν τὸ πᾶν.

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι.

Ύψίστοι οὑχ ὑπάρχουσι σωτῆρες,
οὔτε θεοί οὔτε Καῖσαρ οὔτε δήμαρχοι,
ὁ ἑργάτης ἑαυτὸν διασῳζέσθω,
πάντων σωτηρίαν έψηφισάμεθα.
Ἳν'ἀποδώσῃ τὴν λείαν ὁ κλέπτης
καὶ εἰς δεσμωτήριον ἀπαχθῇ,
χρή φυσητήρια ἐμφυσῆσαι
καὶ χαλκεύειν τὸν σίδηρον θερμόν.

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι.

Χειροῦσιν oἱ ἂρχοντες, ταράττει ὁ νόμος,
τιμήμασι φλεβοτομεῖται ὁ δυστυχής·
τoῦ πλουσίoυ oὐδέν ἐστι καθῆκον,
ἀλλὰ πτωχοῖς τὰ δίκαια κενολογία·
ἅλις ἐστιν ἡμῖν ἐπιτροπῆς·
ἄλλους νόμους ἀπαιτεῖ ἡ ἰσονομία
λέγουσα μέν οὐκ εἶναι δίκαια ἀκαθήκoντα
καθήκoντα δ'οὐκ εἶναι ἀδίκαια

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι.

Φοβεροί ἰδεῖν ἐν τῇ ἀποθεώσει
oἱ μετάλλων καὶ σιδηροδρόμων
κύριοι, τί ἄλλο ἒπραττον
ἤ τοῖς ἐργάταις ἐξέκλεπτον;
ἐν τοῖς τοῦ τάγματος κιβωτοῖς
φυλάττεται νῦν τὰ τοῦ λεώ·
ἀλλ' ἒκρινε ὁ λεώς ἀνταπόδοσιν
πάντων ὧν οἱ ὠφείλεται

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι.

Kαπνῷ ἐμέθυσκον ὑμᾶς οἱ βασιλεῖς!
Eἰρήνη ὑμῖν, τυράννοις πόλεμος!
Ἀνακηρύξαντες στρατιαῖς ἀπεργασίαν
τὰ ὃπλα καταθώμεθα, τὴν τάξιν λύσωμεν!
Ἐὰν διισχυρίσωνται οὗτοι οἱ ἀνθρωποφάγοι
ἀνηρωίζειν ἡμᾶς, ταχέως μαθήσονται
τὰ πυροβόλα εἶναι ἡμῶν στρατηγοῖς!

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
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τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
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τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι.

Ἐργάται, ἀγροικοί ἐσμεν ἡμεῖς
τῶν ἐργατῶν μεγάλη στάσις!
Tοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἡ γῆ μόνον προσήκει,
καὶ σκευαγωγήσεται ὁ ῥᾴθυμος!
Πόσον τρέφονται ἡμῶν τῇ σαρκί,
ἀλλ'ἤν οἱ κόρακες καὶ γῦπες
μίας ἡμέρας ἀφανισθῶσιν,
ἀστράψει ὁ ἣλιος εἰς αἰεί!

Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
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τῷ ᾍσματι τῷ Διεθνεῖ
συνενῷνται οἱ ἀνθρώποι
Εἰς τὸν τελευταῖον ἀγῶνα
συνενοῦμεθ’ ὥστ’αὒριον
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Postby ego » 2007-11-30, 19:41

Wow! Ὑποταρτάριοι; :lol:

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Postby Kyr » 2007-11-30, 19:46

:lol:

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Postby lishaoxuan » 2007-12-01, 5:40

Hehe, thank you so much kyr.
I finally have the lyric.

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Postby Mag » 2007-12-08, 23:05

Can somebody translate for me this sentence? Id' be very grateful :)

Close your eyes, think of me.

If it's possible can you please use a Greek alphabet.
Thanks

P.S. The one I have at the moment is: κλεισε τα ματια, σκεψου εμενα (?)

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Postby ego » 2007-12-08, 23:17

The one you have is correct except that you omitted the accents:
κλείσε τα μάτια, σκέψου εμένα

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Postby Mag » 2007-12-08, 23:36

Thank you so much :)

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Postby Mag » 2007-12-11, 23:06

I wanted to ask for another favour. Can somebody translate it for me? There can be some mistakes,but...
Thank you :)

το προηγουμενο θεμα ηταν ακρειτα βαρυ και ειπα να αλλαξω ενοτητα. Λοιπον ειναι πολλες οι περιπτοσεις που καποια ατομα ξεκηνου μια σχεσι αλλα δεν εχουν ξεκαθαρισει μεσα τουσ η και μεταξι τους, τι ειναι αυτο που περιμενει/αναζητα ο ενας στον αλλον ι με αποτελεσμα να φτανουν οι σχεσεισ σε καποιο κορεσμο και να μην πετυχαινουν ποτε το απολυτο, εφοσον ποτε δεν ξεκαθαρισε ο ενασ στον αλλον ποιο ηταν αυτο το απολυτο. δωστε μου μια περιγραφη στο πως αισθανεστε αυτο το απολυτο

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Need translation here please

Postby linguanima » 2007-12-12, 6:54

Hi guys! I love this George Dalaras song but there are too many words I don't know. Hope you can help me. Thanks :D

Ήσουν θεός

Ήσουν θεός και τρελός από φως
μες στο νου μου χορεύεις μα δε με ξεγελάς
πες μου το πώς σε μεθάει ο καιρός
μια κι αυτό που γυρεύεις δεν ήτανε για μας

Μες στο μεθύσι δεν τελειώνει η γιορτή
για σένα μιλάω της καρδιάς μου πληγή
κι όταν χαράζει των Κυκλάδων το φως
για δες τραγουδάω σαν παιδάκι σοφός

Φεύγεις νωρίς τέλος μιας εποχής
τα φτερά σου τινάζεις τρέμουν οι ουρανοί
φεύγεις νωρίς έρωτα μιας ζωής
όλα τώρα τ' αλλάζεις κι άλλος δε θα ρθει

Μες στο μεθύσι δεν τελειώνει η γιορτή
σε σένα μιλάω της καρδιάς μου πληγή
κι όταν χαράζει των Κυκλάδων το φως
για δες τραγουδάω σαν παιδάκι σοφός
Şərqiy hünərlər: [flag]ug[/flag] [flag]tr[/flag] [flag]ar[/flag] [flag]fa[/flag] [flag]mn[/flag]
Ğərbiy hünərlər: [flag]en[/flag] [flag]fr[/flag] [flag]pt[/flag] [flag]ru[/flag] [flag]el[/flag]

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Re: Need translation here please

Postby ego » 2007-12-12, 14:35

linguanima wrote:Hi guys! I love this George Dalaras song but there are too many words I don't know. Hope you can help me. Thanks :D

Ήσουν θεός - You were a god

Ήσουν θεός και τρελός από φως - You were a god and crazy of light
μες στο νου μου χορεύεις μα δε με ξεγελάς - you dance in my mind but you can't cheat me
πες μου το πώς σε μεθάει ο καιρός - tell me how does time make you drunk
μια κι αυτό που γυρεύεις δεν ήτανε για μας - since what you look for was not for us

Μες στο μεθύσι δεν τελειώνει η γιορτή - Feast doesn't end in drunkness
για σένα μιλάω της καρδιάς μου πληγή - I talk about you, wound of my heart
κι όταν χαράζει των Κυκλάδων το φως - and when the Cyclades' light appears
για δες τραγουδάω σαν παιδάκι σοφός - see, I sing like a wiseman kid

Φεύγεις νωρίς τέλος μιας εποχής - You part early, end of an era
τα φτερά σου τινάζεις τρέμουν οι ουρανοί - you flick your wings, the skies tremble
φεύγεις νωρίς έρωτα μιας ζωής - you part early, love of a life
όλα τώρα τ' αλλάζεις κι άλλος δε θα ρθει - you change everything now and no else will come

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Postby linguanima » 2007-12-12, 17:35

Σ'ευχαριστώ πολύ!

But what does this song mean? Does it have deep roots in Greek mythology? I've got an impression that it does...

What does he mean by 'You dance in my mind but you can't cheat me'? Why would a god cheat by dancing in someone's mind?

And I'm completely lost for the rest of the song...
Şərqiy hünərlər: [flag]ug[/flag] [flag]tr[/flag] [flag]ar[/flag] [flag]fa[/flag] [flag]mn[/flag]
Ğərbiy hünərlər: [flag]en[/flag] [flag]fr[/flag] [flag]pt[/flag] [flag]ru[/flag] [flag]el[/flag]

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Postby ego » 2007-12-13, 13:48

I don't know this song. I wouldn't try to make a meaning out of it though. It's an allegorical one I guess. Deep roots into Greek mythology? I don't think so.. It's dedicated to the memory of Nikos Gatsos as I have found out by googling. Here are the lyrics in English from the site www.stixoi.gr. It's an excellent site for lyrics of all Greek songs and poems. There are hardly any Greek songs or poems not to be found in that site, so I recommend it. Often there is an English and even French, German and Spanish translation of the lyrics

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Postby lishaoxuan » 2007-12-30, 16:08

What is "The Dialogues of Plato" in Greek?

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Postby Kyr » 2007-12-30, 18:53

lishaoxuan wrote:What is "The Dialogues of Plato" in Greek?

"οι Πλατωνικοί Διάλογοι" or "οι Διάλογοι του Πλάτωνος".

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Postby lishaoxuan » 2007-12-31, 9:58

Thanks, kyr!
I have some other questions.
What is "The Dialogues of Socrates" and "The Dialogues of Aristotle" in Greek?

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What does "AIEN YPSIKRATEIN" on this Hellenic Air Force insignia mean? Is this phrase written in Modern Greek or Ancient Greek?

Thanks.

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Postby Kyr » 2008-01-01, 10:08

"αιέν υψικρατείν" means "always rule the heights" and it is in ancient greek. αιέν is a form of αεί meaning "always". υψικρατείν is a present tense infinitive (ending in -ειν) from ύψος (=height) and κρατώ meaning "to rule, to dominate, to have power/ authority, to overcome". hence the name κράτος, meaning "power, authority" in old greek, and "state" today. κρατώ means "hold" in today's speech.

"The Dialogues of Socrates" and "The Dialogues of Aristotle" would be Σωκρατικοί Διάλογοι/ Διάλογοι του Σωκράτους - Αριστοτέλειοι Διάλογοι / Διάλογοι του Αριστοτέλους.

there weren't such dialogues though.. :roll:

note that in demotic the genetiv of all the names of these philosophers are "του Πλάτωνα", "του Σωκράτη", "του Αριστοτέλη".

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Postby lishaoxuan » 2008-01-02, 3:21

Kyr wrote:"The Dialogues of Socrates" and "The Dialogues of Aristotle" would be Σωκρατικοί Διάλογοι/ Διάλογοι του Σωκράτους - Αριστοτέλειοι Διάλογοι / Διάλογοι του Αριστοτέλους.

there weren't such dialogues though.. :roll:

note that in demotic the genetive of all the names of these philosophers are "του Πλάτωνα", "του Σωκράτη", "του Αριστοτέλη".


Hehe, thank you Κύριε Κυριάκε! I just wanted to know how names like Socrates and Aristotle are inflected. :)

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Postby Mag » 2008-01-11, 22:48

If somebody would like to translate for me quite a long text - it's a discussion of two people, I'd be very grateful as it's important for me. Thank you.

1. To proigoumeno thema itan akreta varu kai eipa na allakso enotita. Loipon einai polles oi periptoseis pou kapoia atoma ksekinoun mia sxesi alla den exoun ksekatharisei mesa tous h kai metaksi tous, ti einai afto pou perimenei/anazita o enas ston allon_i me apotelesma na ftanoun oi sxeseis se kapoio koresmo kai na min petuxainoun pote to apoluto, efoson pote den ksekatharise o enas ston allon poio itan afto to apoluto. Doste mou mia perigrafi sto pos aisthaneste afto to apoluto. Thanksssss!!!!
2.Aman more M., esi kai oi anisixies sou. Loipon ego tha sou apantiso se ayto to thema. Ola einai mal***kies. Kai ase aytous pou to paizoun anetoi kai monternoi kai poli proxorimenoi. Stin pragmatikotita oloi eimaste agalitses-fotinoulides kai mikroi patatoufes kai OLOI theloume to apolyto, diladi goutsougoutsou agalitses, agapes kai melomakarona. Oloi kseroun ti theloun. Den einai ayto to provlima. TO provlima vrisketai mesa sto mialo mas, pirodoteitai apo asximes empireies, apo viomata sto ameso perivallon kai apo tis grigores enallages pou i sigxroni koinonia epitassei me ameso h' emmeso tropo.
OI sxeseis loipon den ftanoun pote se koresmo. Diafono mazi sou. Mia sxesi mporei na ananeonetai kathimerina mesa apo mikra kai kathimerina pramata. To monadiko prama pou exei agiksei to zenith tou koresmou einai i vlakeia kai to kompleks pou vrisketai se para pollous (distixos).
Apolyto den nomizo pos yparxei. ALla oute eimai kai iperxmanos tis ideas oti to mi xeiron veltiston... An mporousa ego gia mena na prosdioriso ti einai to apolyto... eeexmm.. tha elega mallon mia sxesi stin opoia kanoume ayto pou aisthanomaste, leme ayto pou aisthanomaste kai pratoume me gnomona ti diki mas ithiki kai oxi vasei tis modas kai tis epoxis....
Vevaia pera apo ton romantismo kai tous loipous sinaisthimatismous, kata ti gnomi mou gia na petixeis h' mallon na plisiaseis sto apolyto tha prepei na min iparxoun diafores me ton allon se zitimata aksion kai koinonikou kai morfotikou epipedou. THeoro oti megales apokliseis se aytous tous tomeis, einai troxopedh stin ekseliksi mias sxesis...
Pantos M., kleinontas ayti ti mikri mou ekthesi, exo na po pos an eisai se sxesi kai ta skeftesai ayta gia na dikaiologiseis asximes katastaseis, teliose tin apo tora... mia ora arxitera. AN pernas kala den tha exeis anagi na psaxnesai se filosofiko epipedo. Sosta??? Mipos to apolito einai otan eisai iremos kai den to filosofeis??? MIpos ayti einai i epitomi tou apolitou??? na zei kaneis h' na mi zei??? perimeno sinexeia apo esena....
1.Min purovoleite ton pianista. Duskola tha ginomoun kraxtis tou eaftou mou akoma kai an eimai ston provlimatismo afto. Ekeino pou me apasxolei einai oti den exo petuxei zevgari to opoio na niothei oti einai ola kala kai teleia meta apo kapoia megali periodo sxesis. Afto pou skeftomai se kathe periptosi einai oti afto pou anaferei h Elina oti oloi kata vathos eimaste agalitses-fotinoulides kai mikroi patatoufes pistevo oti einai afto pou katastalasei se oti exo anaferei noritera. Diladi , oloi theloume na niosoume oti mas agapane kai oti agapame alla otan to katalavoume oti simvainei kai to sunithisoume tote exoume ftasei se ena koresmo twn sunthikwn pou zitousame.
Me liga logia otan xathei to pathos, tote exoun xathei kai oi idanikes sunthikes tis sxesis. Kai to allo einai oti an h katallili sxesi einai afti stin opoia o kathenas ekfrazetai opos thelei kai kapos etsi katafernei na peftei o enas sta matia tou allou. Afto sumvainei epeidi ta agoria klassika eimaste megaloi kafroi kai otan fainetai o pragmatikos eaftos mas kai oxi o kalos agapoulis tote exoume polu katotero epipedo epikoinonias apo to arxiko pou eixame se mia sxesi , kai to sigouro einai oti stin epikoinwnia mas me filous ginomaste oi megaloi peftoules pou koitan triguro epeidi exoun hdh mia kavatzomeni kopela gia sxesi.
Emena prosopika afto me xalaei. Diladi thelo na exo mia sxesi pou na ananeonetai apo amoivaies prakseis kai oxi na proxoraei diarkos sto idio motivo kai ksafnika mia mera na exei ginei to kalimera kai to kalinuxta pou leme o enas ston allo apla kai mono epeidi to kanoun oloi. Pistevo oti stis idanikes sunthikes mias sxesis einai apoluta anagkaia kapoia diplomatia tou enos ston allon kai sigoura na katalavainei o enas ti enoxlei ton allon.Perimeno sxoliasmoooooo……….
2.Agapite mou, stin agapi den perimeneis apo ton allon na einai opos ton thes. AN itan etsi, tha kaname paragelia sto internet ton eteron imisi. Ayto pou perimeneis einai na sou feretai sosta... kai mia tetoia simperifora den tha einai aporroia diplomatias tou enos pano ston allon, alla mia stasi zois pou exei ftiaxtei sto vathos tou xronou kai pou sto megalitero tis pososto exei dimiourgithei apo tin oikogeneia apo tin opoia proerxetai.
Tora to pathos sto opoio anaferesai einai mia alli ipothesi. TO pathos, i trella kai ta loipa exoun na kanoun me to ksekinima. Einai o enthousiasmos kai einai oraios den leo... alla meta oi sxeseis pernane se alla epipeda, sigoura poli vathitera kai kapou ekei erxetai kai i agapi.
ALla min ksexnas pos o anthropos einai polidiastato on, kai epomeno einai na exei oxi mono enan rolo sti zoi tou, alla kai pollous allous pera apo ayton tou erotikou syntrofou. Allios simperiferesai otan eisai monos me tin kopela sou, allios otan eiste me allous giro sou, allios an vgeis vradi ekso mazi tis, allios an eiste mono antroparea... den vrisko kati se ayto...
Vre M., min ta iperanalieis omos toso poli. Den kanei kalo.... Etsi ki allios, an mia sxesi einai na paei kala, tha paei... Kaneis dne mporei na sou egiithei tipota. Apopsi mou einai pos ta pramata einai para poli apla, alla emeis ta exoume kanei na fainontai poliploka. Keep on grooving. O.ti einai na rthei, the na rthei, allios tha prosperasei. Esi koita mono na ta exeis kala me ton eayto sou kai na exeis pisti se ayton, giati ayto einai to pio simantiko.
Kai na sou po episis pos ayto pou les oti prepei na ksekatharizeis ston allon ti thes einai megali saxlamara. Ksereis esi kanenan na anakoinonei ston allo ti thelei? Ayta mono ston epagelmatiko xoro ginontai. Kalo mou prepei na katalaveis pos ayta ta pramata den ta diloneis kai oute periaytologeis, oi simperifores prokyptoun!
1.Tha ta parw apo tin arxi…Pes mou mia fora pou na pareiggeiles kati apo to internet kai otan irthe ,na itan akrivos etsi opos to itheles kai opos to eixes dei sti diafimisi. Eimai sigouros oti den exei simvei pote. Opote kai h mitera fusi proevlepse na epilegoume to kathe ti me vasi to nomo tis sxetikotitas.Ara, an kati to theoreis kalo kai oraio, eite einai afto sumperifora, eite xaraktiristiko tou prosopou kai tou somatos, sigoura se elkei kai me afti tin prooptiki epilegeis atomo/suntrofo/katoikidio….. Uparxei kai h prooptiki tou sunoikesiou pou den isxuei gia tin periptosi tou katoikidiou (mexri stigmis toulaxiston). Ftanontas loipon sto simeio pou milame gia tin agapi, den katalavaino giati prepei na exei eksafanistei to pathos kai na min emfanistei san meros aftis.
Mou fainetai apithano na agapiseis ena atomo an prota den fas kollima kai enthousiasmo apo kapoia stoixeia tou, ta opoia ginontai emfanh kata tin diarkeia tou arxikou pathous sou me afto. Me ti diki sou logiki to vathos xronou dioxnei to pathos , fernei tin agapi kai o Johny Walker akoma erxetai. Mpaaaa…. Kata tin tapeini mou apopsi, an xathei to pathos kai h agonia tou pote(?) that deis ton athrwpo sou sigoura xanetai kai to endiaferon gia na ton deis, ara “your love is gone” . Vevaia an perigrapseis san agapi kati polu xalaro kai apala aisthisiako(ellinisti gnosto kai os kseneroma!) tote mallon sunithizeis se polu xalarous tropous zois kai simviosis opote se afti ti fasi se paradexomai , isxiei h apopsi sou.
Pame tora sti fasi tis simperiforas: Skepsou oti einai ola kala sti sxesi sou me to agori, to opoio exei arketous filous kai files kai vevaia thelei na einai diarkws mazi sou kai na sumetexeis se otidipote summetexei kai ekeinos. An oi agapitoi filoi tou agoriou sou arxisoun na kollane se diafores kopelitses se fasi pou eiste oloi mazi ekso, kai perpatate, kai polu apla to agori sou anti na tous ftusei kai na tous tin pei, gurisei kai xamogelasei stis kopeles. Esi tha enoxleis? Nai h oxi? Giati skepsou apo tin mia oti to agori sou den kollise se kapoia kopela antithetos paremeine siopilos, alla xamogelase gia na min tin spasei stous filous tou.
Sti sigkekrimeni fasi exoun enoxlithei oles oi plevres giati oi filoi exoun xasei enan enthermo ipostirikti pou tha tous voithouse na vroun kopela , eno esi exeis xasei tin empistosuni sou apenanti tou, afou pisteveis oti an bgei monos tou to proto pragma pou tha kanei tha einai na xamogela stis kopelitses….(an exeis diaforetiki apopsi tha ithela na to ksero ). Opote to poludiastato on pou mou anafereis skepsou oti gia kathe tou diastasi exei kai mia diaforetiki optiki kai sigoura to idio to atomo prospathise na ikanopoihsei tous pantes me apotelesma pou dusarestisei tous pantes.
Opote epistrefontas sto arxiko erotima, otan ksekinaei ena agoraki sxesi me mia kopelitsa, tha itan xrisimo na tis anaferei to ti atoma ton perivaloun(px filoi , oikogeneia,ktl) kai na eksigei stin kopela tou, tous rolous pou prepei na ensarkonetai apenanti tous, wste na kaluptei ta nwta tous prin aftes oi katastaseis erthoun, h apla na ksekinisei ti sxesi kai oti vreksei xionisei?
2. Trikimia en kraniw exeis??? M. polla ta erotimata sou... Poio pathos kai agonia gia to POTE (?) tha deis ton allon??? Diladi gia pes mou... an sizeis me ton allon, ti agonia na exeis?? Tha ton deis sigoura otan gyriseis apo ti douleia sou!!! xaxaxa!!! Kai giati parakalo to na eisai xalaros einai kseneroma??? I ousia nomizo se mia sxesi, einai na eisai iremos kai na pernas oraia. Ego to pathos kai tin entasi thelo na tin vrisko allou kai oxi apo tin agonia gia to AN tha fao kerato, AN tha vgei me tous filous tou, AN tha flertarei me alles, AN AN AN AN.... AN thelei na to kanei, poli apla tha to kanei.
Kamia simasia den exei an tha eimai ego mprosta, h' oi filoi tou, h' oloi mazi. Nomizo pos exeis kolisei poli sto sexoualiko kai antagonistiko kommati anamesa se ena zevgari. Sorry Manolaki pou tha se stenoxoriso, alla tin entasi kai to pathos den nomizo pos ta sintireis an ton allon ton exeis stin tsita me tis gnostes potapes methodous tou stil "ana pasa stigmi mporo na iemai me allon". EGo epimeno pos ta pramata erxontai kai faneronontai sto vathos tou xronou, stadiaka, vima-vima... opos thes pes to. Den xriazetai na diloneis tipota... einai anofelo. Epipleon, den eimaste 10 xronon. Thelo na pistevo pos to ti protheseis exei kapoios apenanti mas, mporoume na to psilokatalavoume... alla ayta einai KAI amoivaia, mialo exoume, empireies exoume.
To endexomeno na mas korovoidevoun panta yparxei kai mporei na pligothoume kai na thimosoume, alla kai pali pistevo tipota den paei xameno. EGo ayto pou sou eipa apo tin arxi einai pos theoro oti sxeseis aneu ousias den exoun logo iparksis, giati i zoi einai poli mikri gia na ti xaramizoume gia to tipota. Pistevo pos to koitas apo lathos optiki gonia to olo thema...Koitas ligo antagonistika to thema erotikou sintrofou kai filwn. EGo M. den pistevo pos an kapoios vgei monos tou me tous filous (eite o antras, eite i gynaika) ayto einai casus belli. Isa isa pou gia na einai mia sxesi ygiis, prepei na afineis kai ton allo na anapneusei. PRepei na eisai me kapoion epeidi se thelei kai oxi epeidi se fovatai.
1.Opa opa, xalara, an sizeis me kapoion den eisai sta oria tis sxesis alla sta oria tou desmou opote den sizitame gia kapoio atomo pou gnorises kai les tora eimai kala. Giati vasika aftes tis sunthikes einai pou dierotomai (sto thema tou scrapbook). Ara anaferomai sti fasi pou gnorizeis ena atomo kai siga siga proxoras mazi tou. An sizeis me kapoio atomo to pio pithano einai na exeis parei apofaseis gia polla kai na ksereis oti otan gurisei sto spiti to ena atomo apo ta duo tha akousei to allo na tou fonazei “Darling!!!” kai kati tha psinetai sto fourno enw o agapitos skilos sou (en ti afti periptwsi o Manou tha fernei tis pantofles). Rollback….. Gnorizeis ena atomo, apo ekei kai meta ti ginetai?
theoreis dedomeno oti einai ola teleia kai den tha uparxei kamia entasi si sxesi sou. Giati pistepse me an tha uparxei stin epikoinonia sou me afto to atomo, entasi, to mono sigouro einai oti den tha uparxei argotera pathos kai entasi ekei pou esi opos mou les ti vriskeis. Kai an ipothesoume oti to atomo me to opoio vriskese sinuthizei na kanei polles kai paralliles sxeseis sti zoi tou, esi tha ksekiniseis mia sxesi agnoontas to katheti kai tha peis “ela more kai ti egine an avrio tha serno ego ton Ai Vasili kai oxi o Rountolf(vasi keratou milame panta)”. Sto thema tou antagonismou den pistevo oti prepei na uparxei antagonismos alla eimai tis apopsis uper tou evgenous sunagonismou.
Diladi na ananeonei to zevgari ti sxesi me tropous pou na ekplisoun efxarista o enas ton allo kai oxi na perimenoun apo kati aniaro pou siga siga proxoraei na to onomazoun sxesi.px oi oi glukes ekplikseis kai oi allages topiwn, filwn,katastasews panta empneoun kati polu oraio kai diaforetiko se mia sxesi. Se kamia fasi den anaferomai sto sexoualiko, apla skepsou oti opos mou les oti sto vathos tou xronou faneronontai oi sxeseis, kai ftaneis se mia fasi pou enw sou faneronetai siga siga mia omorfi sxesi, ksafnika vlepeis mia katastasi pou sou xalaei oli tin eikona. Ekei ti les? Ego exo empeiries kai afto apokleietai na simvainei. Sigoura oxi, kai h logiki enos atomou pou den einai 10 xronwn einai sigoura tis fasis oti prepei na gnoriseis ena atomo se akraies katastaseis gia na ksereis simperifores kai antidraseis stis metries katastaseis.
Alla ela pou afto den ginetai an den psakseis ti sxesi sou en kairo kai apla tin afiseis na deis pou tha paei kai an tha paei. Telos thelo na pw oti den einai h diki mou plevra pou pistevo oti einai antagonistiki sti sxesi , alla h plevra twn filwn pou emfanizetai antagonistiki apenanti se mia kopela px h opoia erxetai na klepsei ton elefthero xrono tou filou pou iksere h palioparea edo kai tosa xronia…. Opos les h zoi einai polu mikri gia na ti xaramizoume kai ego tha sumplirosw, oti einai polu mikri gia na tin xaramizoume se askopes sxeseis pou ginontai xoris na uparxoun ta themelia gia aftes.
2.M. ti pineis kai den mas dineis?? NOmizo irthe i ora na xoriseis... exeis lalisei telios. Den to sizito... EGo genika otan ksekino mia sxesi, den kathomai na ta analio toso poli ta pramata. An eimai me ton allon kai ta pernao kala, tote ola pane kala. An den pane kala, tote pame parakato. An ayto to atomo pali, kanei polles kai parallies sxeseis kai esi DEN to ksereis, tote kapoia fasi tha fanoun ola. An to ksereis kai sinexizeis, to krima sto laimo sou. Kaneis den sou ftaiei gia kati pou ksereis. An oi filoi sou exoun parapono pou i kopela sou klevei ton eleythero xrono, tote pes tous pos tous agapas poli alla ayti tin periodo exeis tromeres sexoualikes anages kai thes na apaytonesai oli tin imera. Aman more M.!!! Mipos na ksekiniseis ta elafra narkotika?? Mporei na se voithisoun...
1.H alitheia einai oti den xreiazetai na piw kati gia na papsw na eimai nifalios, se afto eimai xarismatikos, mporo na paralogistw se pliri nifaliotita. Afto pou ithela na se rotiso Elina otan ksekinas tin kathe sxesi sou einai, an pernas to katofli tis portas aneta , giati vlepo na min se apasxolei kati to opoio apasxolei se terastio pososto ton antriko pluthismo. Einai h legomeni astheneia tarandismos h opoia exei tin timitiki tis kathe xristougenna, oxi logo elkuthrou , apla epeidi anapoloume(eite analogizomaste!) poso psila eixe ftasei to kerato mesa stin xronia pou perase(h legomeni apografi!). Pistevo oti eisai h idaniki kopela gia sxesi giati agnoeis (ekousia) ton kathe provlimatismo kai apla pas parakatw.
2.Agapi mou kali, frontizo prin peraso to katofli aytis tis portas na exo volidoskopisei ligo tin katastasi. APo ekei kai pera, pairneis to risko. Epipleon exo na simpliroso, pos an kapoios me keratosei ayto den simainei pos me prosvalei kiolas. Opos leei kai o filos mou o Nitse, kaneis den mporei na se prosvallei kai na se pligosei xoris ti sigatathesi sou. Loipon, an kapoios me keratosei kai to matho, apla ta mazevo kai fevgo aksioprepos. Stin teliki, an fas kerato den ftais esi. An omos to tros, to ksereis kai kathesai, tote sto kalo kai na mas grafeis. EIsai aksios tis moiras sou... Aman more M.!!!! Ego loipon, exo na sou po pos den skeftomai etsi. Profanos stis ilikies pou eimaste, otan gnorizoume kapoion den ton pairnoume kateytheian apo ti mama tou. Profanos kai exei kapoio parelthon, kai poli pithano ton kairo pou ton/tin gnorizeis na einai sta "teliomata". KOULARE!!! I alithia panta lampei sto telos !!!! Filakia.. pao na fao (eimai kai sti douleia vlepeis ) xaxaxa


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