The Political Compass (again)

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Kiani » 2015-09-03, 13:04

Koko wrote:
Kiani wrote:Yaaaay! *claps*

The next thing to do is find out which tiny irrelevant splinter group you sympathise with...though I don't blame you if you don't want to!

I've always been so confused by how the philosophies were different from each other. Is there any site with lists of what they all agree on and then what each does different? That would save so much research ^^


The link code isn't working for some reason, but this link has a pretty good summary: http://marxistpedia.mwzip.com/wiki/List ... al_debates

Oh and read Capital. It's not that scary, I swear.

I'll see if I can find it in the library, or otherwise save to buy online or in-store (if I can find it.)


Voilà: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-09-03, 18:39

Thanks! ^^

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Saaropean » 2015-09-05, 23:35

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Koko wrote:I'm going to guess you're (Saaropean) NPD is something akin to "New Party for Democracy?"

No, "National Democratic Party." It's a far-right party. Compare the National Socialist German Workers' Party, a.k.a. Nazis.

Yes, that's it. The NPD is a neonazi party in Germany.
In Québec, NPD stands for "nouveau parti démocratique", which is called NDP ("New Democratic Party") in English. The NPD/NDP is Canada's official opposition, stands for social democracy and is likely to gain most of the federal votes in Québec this fall.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby JackFrost » 2015-09-26, 20:08

Ha... not too surprised.

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Anyway, if anyone is interested taking this compass: https://votecompass.cbc.ca/
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby TeneReef » 2015-09-27, 8:58

:hmm:

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Prowler » 2015-09-27, 12:00

Your Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: 0.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-09-28, 5:54

JackFrost wrote:Ha... not too surprised. […]

Do you support Québec sovereignty? :hmm:

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby JackFrost » 2015-09-29, 0:11

Koko wrote:
JackFrost wrote:Ha... not too surprised. […]

Do you support Québec sovereignty? :hmm:

I was asked about the recognition of Québec as a nation in the constitution. Answered: strongly agree.

Then the question about Québec being a sovereign state, "somewhat agree". I'm sure that further made me more of match for the BQ. :P Though my heart isn't really into it, unlike the diehards.
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-12-13, 4:08

Holy freakin' YES! I retook the compass test and here is where i stand:
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-6.25; -5.18

BAMM! (BANG BANG BANG ppangya ppangya ppangya*)x3 So much left than my previous take :mrgreen: :partyhat: :bounce:

* any kpoppers here to get the referrence?

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Prowler » 2015-12-13, 8:57

Koko wrote:Holy freakin' YES! I retook the compass test and here is where i stand:
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-6.25; -5.18

BAMM! (BANG BANG BANG ppangya ppangya ppangya*)x3 So much left than my previous take :mrgreen: :partyhat: :bounce:

* any kpoppers here to get the referrence?

That was my result, more or less, when I first took it back in 2009.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-12-13, 9:03

Wow, I'd say that's a fairly drastic change then :shock: (from far-ish left [on both axes] to centre)

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Prowler » 2015-12-13, 9:07

Koko wrote:Wow, I'd say that's a fairly drastic change then :shock: (from far-ish left [on both axes] to centre)

People change.

I was 18-19 when I took this test for the first time. Now I'm 25. Age and life experience might end up changing our political ideology as we get older. It's common for people to hold more radical views when they're teenagers/young adults and then becoming more moderate when they get older.

Also, I don't consider this test a mirror image of what I believe in. Since there's no middle ground. I answer a few questions slightly differently every time I re-take this test.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-12-13, 9:32

Prowler wrote:It's common for people to hold more radical views when they're teenagers/young adults and then becoming more moderate when they get older.

I've heard that so many times, but I can't wrap my head around the idea of holding onto an opinion so strongly and then have the exact opposite view when you're older. I can't imagine myself moving anywhere further than centre-left in the future: I think that my 16 years have given me enough experience to keep me firmly left.

Also, I don't consider this test a mirror image of what I believe in. Since there's no middle ground. I answer a few questions slightly differently every time I re-take this test.

This is true. I would love there to be a few more responses, like "neutral," "it depends," etc.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Levike » 2015-12-13, 10:25

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This was unexpected. I thought I'd be somewhere on the upper right side. :cry:
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Car » 2015-12-13, 10:45

Koko wrote:
Prowler wrote:It's common for people to hold more radical views when they're teenagers/young adults and then becoming more moderate when they get older.

I've heard that so many times, but I can't wrap my head around the idea of holding onto an opinion so strongly and then have the exact opposite view when you're older. I can't imagine myself moving anywhere further than centre-left in the future: I think that my 16 years have given me enough experience to keep me firmly left.

I'm sorry, but what you wrote sounds so typical for someone your age. :P
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby md0 » 2015-12-13, 11:39

Levike wrote:Image

This was unexpected. I thought I'd be somewhere on the upper right side. :cry:


Don't worry. PC is a very biased test. You are still a fascist.
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Levike » 2015-12-13, 11:41

meidei wrote:Don't worry. PC is a very biased test. You are still a fascist.

:twisted:

PS: Do you happen to know one that's more or less right?
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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Prowler » 2015-12-13, 12:10

Meh, Levike is a swell dude.. He's okay in my book.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby vijayjohn » 2015-12-13, 17:47

Car wrote:
Koko wrote:
Prowler wrote:It's common for people to hold more radical views when they're teenagers/young adults and then becoming more moderate when they get older.

I've heard that so many times, but I can't wrap my head around the idea of holding onto an opinion so strongly and then have the exact opposite view when you're older. I can't imagine myself moving anywhere further than centre-left in the future: I think that my 16 years have given me enough experience to keep me firmly left.

I'm sorry, but what you wrote sounds so typical for someone your age. :P

:lol: Yeah, I remember having much more extreme views when I was younger. Honestly, I've never really been able to decide what I think of communism or capitalism (partly) because I don't think I've ever really understood either. I used to be an enthusiastic supporter of communism (including communist states) when I was younger because I had no idea just how bad it (or they) could be. But then talking about it with my dad convinced me that I should be supporting capitalism instead. Now I feel like I'm kind of where I started out, unsure of which one I'd support, except now politics just in general doesn't appeal to me, either, since all too often it seems to be code for systematic discrimination.

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Re: The Political Compass (again)

Postby Koko » 2015-12-13, 19:02

Maybe I should've kept my explanation in that post instead of expecting you to assume I had a reason for believing what I said. But whatever.

I'm a socialist because I grew up in a poorer-than-most household in a primarily conservative province. This was the result of conservatism/capitalism, and most of my life the Conservative Party was the ruling party in Canada, so I experienced much of the damage a rightist government causes (second-hand mostly, but I would've been affected in some way too). Even if I weren't affected by capitalism I would've read about the problems rightist views have caused in the past (imperialism, nationalism, militarism, capitalism mainly). And to get a good idea of real communism, there is the USSR even if it was more of a militarized totalitarian state. Economically it was left, yes, and that actually saved the state from the Depression (and people say communism is bad. Bah! This is a thing that makes me largely in favour of leftism, because communism actually worked instead of the capitalistic "solutions" the Conservatives and US made). But socially the state was too far right that people fail to see the economic advantages of communism, and I would even say that isn't totally unfair (most communist regimes and states are absolutely terrible examples of communism). So I have given a lot of thought into picking my generalized ideology to follow, and needn't anyways because of the setting of my upbringing.


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