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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby vijayjohn » 2020-01-02, 0:36

Saim wrote:Can’t anyone make a Polandball? I didn’t think there was any “canon” series with a single author.

Probably. There are at least two Polandball Twitter accounts, but both comics seem to be on both. I have no idea who drew either one of them or whether they were both made by the same person.

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Synalepha » 2020-01-02, 0:43

Nazis seem to have this deep fear of being cucked by brown or black people and Sweden is seen as the archetypal national version of this fear because of how they're (supposedly) handling (black and brown) immigrants.

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-01-04, 1:24

The assassination of Qasem Soleimani has got to be the stupidest geopolitical move I have seen since the invasion of Iraq.

"Wow - the price of killing and injuring Americans has just gone up drastically." - Lindsey Graham

Yeah, and apparently the price of killing a top Iranian general is that 3,500 additional US troops need to be immediately sent into harm's way in the Middle East, at the taxpayer's cost, to face Iran's lethal retaliation. Fucking warmongering dimwit.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby vijayjohn » 2020-01-04, 21:02

Meanwhile, apparently, the current situation in India is so bad that a fellow Indian I know online says the government has let out the army to suppress the protests and the cops are burning buses on the streets of New Delhi.
Synalepha wrote:Nazis seem to have this deep fear of being cucked by brown or black people

This fear would be cute if it wasn't so dangerous. How narcissistic do people have to be to think we're that interested in their race anyway? Alternatively, how powerful do they think we are?

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-01-23, 1:38

I'm ignoring US news media for the duration of the impeachment trial. I understand why it is dominating the headlines, but to me it's a giant waste of time to follow a political spectacle with an entirely foregone conclusion.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Sarabi » 2020-01-23, 2:57

Yasna wrote:I'm ignoring US news media for the duration of the impeachment trial. I understand why it is dominating the headlines, but to me it's a giant waste of time to follow a political spectacle with an entirely foregone conclusion.


T'as raison, mais ça me met tellement en colère que je souhaite vraiment pouvoir changer au moins le résultat de l'élection... je voudrais faire ce que je pourrai. *soupir*
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby md0 » 2020-01-27, 6:46

Fun times ahead as the Cyprus conflict gets heated again :?
https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/01/19/287705/

This is what you get when negotiations are suspended for more than two years already.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-01-29, 21:45

This goes here. I just registered to vote for the first time. Now i wonder how i find out about candidates running and such in November. Like obviously i can watch CSPAN - that's actually all i will watch with regards to politics. I like neutrality quite a bit. :)

Though i want more information on Green party or Anarchist party and like. That'd be nice if anyone could guide me in the right direction. Just send me links or what not. If it's on TV even better

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Sarabi » 2020-01-29, 22:16

Jeg tror ikke på nøytralitet. Det er en mirage, etter min mening. Selvfølgelig det kan være relativ nøytralitet. På grunn av det, vi har Media Bias Fact Check.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby TheStrayCat » 2020-01-30, 3:21

Gormur wrote:This goes here. I just registered to vote for the first time. Now i wonder how i find out about candidates running and such in November. Like obviously i can watch CSPAN - that's actually all i will watch with regards to politics. I like neutrality quite a bit. :)

Though i want more information on Green party or Anarchist party and like. That'd be nice if anyone could guide me in the right direction. Just send me links or what not. If it's on TV even better

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-10, 20:00

"Parmi les objets nouveaux qui, pendant mon séjour aux États-Unis, ont attiré mon attention, aucun n’a plus vivement frappé mes regards que l’égalité des conditions."- Tocqueville, 1848

How the times have changed.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-10, 20:21

Yasna wrote:"Parmi les objets nouveaux qui, pendant mon séjour aux États-Unis, ont attiré mon attention, aucun n’a plus vivement frappé mes regards que l’égalité des conditions."- Tocqueville, 1848

How the times have changed.

For sure. No more slavery, for starters.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-10, 22:30

linguoboy wrote:For sure. No more slavery, for starters.

Are you implying that the relative equality among Euro-Americans at the time was dependent on slavery?
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-10, 22:36

Yasna wrote:
linguoboy wrote:For sure. No more slavery, for starters.

Are you implying that the relative equality among Euro-Americans at the time was dependent on slavery?

I'm outright saying that de Tocqueville had some massive blind spots that render his observations a bit suspect in this area.
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Postby Synalepha » 2020-02-11, 7:27

Yasna wrote:"Parmi les objets nouveaux qui, pendant mon séjour aux États-Unis, ont attiré mon attention, aucun n’a plus vivement frappé mes regards que l’égalité des conditions."- Tocqueville, 1848

How the times have changed.


How does he define "l'égalité des conditions"?

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-12, 20:01

linguoboy wrote:I'm outright saying that de Tocqueville had some massive blind spots that render his observations a bit suspect in this area.

The data backs him up. Economic historians Peter Lindert and Jeffrey Williamson found that the share of national income going to the top one percent was less than 10 percent at the time.*

Synalepha wrote:How does he define "l'égalité des conditions"?

I don't think he does, but it's obvious that he's comparing the US to aristocratic Europe. Here's the rest of the paragraph:

"Parmi les objets nouveaux qui, pendant mon séjour aux États-Unis, ont attiré mon attention, aucun n’a plus vivement frappé mes regards que l’égalité des conditions. Je découvris sans peine l’influence prodigieuse qu’exerce ce premier fait sur la marche de la société ; il donne à l’esprit public une certaine direction, un certain tour aux lois ; aux gouvernants des maximes nouvelles, et des habitudes particulières aux gouvernés."

*Unequal Gains: American Growth and Inequality since 1700
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-12, 21:45

Yasna wrote:
linguoboy wrote:I'm outright saying that de Tocqueville had some massive blind spots that render his observations a bit suspect in this area.

The data backs him up. Economic historians Peter Lindert and Jeffrey Williamson found that the share of national income going to the top one percent was less than 10 percent at the time.*

What was the percentage going to the 15% of the population who were being held in chains?

Any amount at all, however small, is infinitely more than nothing.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-12, 22:21

linguoboy wrote:What was the percentage going to the 15% of the population who were being held in chains?

Any amount at all, however small, is infinitely more than nothing.

When you take into account the slaves, yes, the inequality of 1848 American society was horrific, as in all slave societies. But I think it's still interesting to consider the low inequality among Euro-Americans in 1848, as Tocqueville did.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-12, 23:49

Yasna wrote:
linguoboy wrote:What was the percentage going to the 15% of the population who were being held in chains?

Any amount at all, however small, is infinitely more than nothing.

When you take into account the slaves, yes, the inequality of 1848 American society was horrific, as in all slave societies. But I think it's still interesting to consider the low inequality among Euro-Americans in 1848, as Tocqueville did.

I'm not sure what it tells us, though, given how completely different the economy of the USA was at that time (e.g., still 50% agrarian and only about 20% services).
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-18, 17:59

It's funny how distorted of an impression social media gives you about the Democratic primaries. Top Facebook comments on posts by even mainstream media like the NYT are generally by full-throated supporters of Bernie or Warren, to the point of viewing Bloomberg as beyond the pale and not even a "true" Democrat. Yet if you sum up the poll numbers for the major candidates in terms of far left or moderate, the far left candidates are at about 40%, and the moderates at about 48%. Bernie would be screwed if the two wings of the party consolidated around Bernie and a moderate candidate respectively. It's probably not going to happen soon enough to stop Bernie though.
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