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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Sarabi » 2020-02-26, 8:00

Yasna wrote:It's funny how distorted of an impression social media gives you about the Democratic primaries. Top Facebook comments on posts by even mainstream media like the NYT are generally by full-throated supporters of Bernie or Warren, to the point of viewing Bloomberg as beyond the pale and not even a "true" Democrat. Yet if you sum up the poll numbers for the major candidates in terms of far left or moderate, the far left candidates are at about 40%, and the moderates at about 48%. Bernie would be screwed if the two wings of the party consolidated around Bernie and a moderate candidate respectively. It's probably not going to happen soon enough to stop Bernie though.


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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Antea » 2020-02-26, 12:09

What is really the capital of Israel now? :hmm:

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-02-26, 14:48

Israel's is Tel Aviv. I think Jerusalem is pretty important to religious people too
Eigi gegnir þat at segja at bók nøkkur er hreinferðug eðr ønnur spelluð því at vandliga ok dáliga eru bœkr ritnar ok annat kunnum vér eigi um þœr at dœma

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Antea » 2020-02-26, 21:13

I also thought it was Tel Aviv, but I happened to mention it to somebody today, and he did not agree at all and he said it always has been Jérusalem. Maybe it has something to do with the US recognition two years ago, but what about the rest of the world? Has it really changed? :hmm:

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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Luís » 2020-02-27, 10:06

Depends on who you ask. Israel considers Jerusalem to be its capital (at least since 1967) and a couple of countries officially recognize it as such (including the United States)

Anyway, regardless of the official status and international recognition, Jerusalem is the de facto capital of Israel (in the sense that all official institutions are located there)
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-02-27, 14:49

I always thought it'd be interesting to see how Palestinian people view Jerusalem. Would it have any religious significance to them? :hmm:
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-27, 15:27

Gormur wrote:I always thought it'd be interesting to see how Palestinian people view Jerusalem. Would it have any religious significance to them? :hmm:

Hopefully this answers your question: https://pij.org/articles/646.

tl;dr: Yes. Jerusalem is a holy city for Jews, Christians, and Muslims, and all three religions have important sacred sites located there.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-02-27, 16:58

That's pretty much what I'd thought except a slight detail here. The Palestinian Muslims regard it as sacred but Mecca, Saudi Arabia is really the only place highly regarded by Islamic culture elsewhere. Anyway, feel no need to reply. It's just what I've heard from various media over the years :)

Not even valid as a hypothetical scenario, but if nobody voted this year wouldn't the current person in power be re-elected unanimously or would it be termed anonymously? I bet that one can't even be answered it's so ridiculous :wink: :hmm:
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-02-27, 17:29

Gormur wrote:That's pretty much what I'd thought except a slight detail here. The Palestinian Muslims regard it as sacred but Mecca, Saudi Arabia is really the only place highly regarded by Islamic culture elsewhere.

That's simply not true. The most common Arabic name for Jerusalem, القُدس‎, literally means "the [city of] holiness".
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Yasna » 2020-02-27, 19:29

linguoboy wrote:That's simply not true. The most common Arabic name for Jerusalem, القُدس‎, literally means "the [city of] holiness".

Iran's Quds Force (سپاه قدس) is even named after it.
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-03-21, 9:59

I've had this thought lately

If we have rights, is it only in practice? In other words, say that you vote in an election. Then you automatically have the right to vote, but if you don't exercise the right to vote then you don't have it

Hopefully this makes sense. To me it makes perfect sense because the person is demonstrating their power or right rather than actually expressing that they have rights

Thoughts? :para: :hmm:
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby linguoboy » 2020-03-21, 16:02

I would say it depends on your political philosophy and your level of analysis.

The US legal system distinguishes pretty clearly between having the right to do something and not doing it (e.g. sitting out an election), not having the right (e.g. because you're a noncitizen), and having the right but being prohibited from exercising it (e.g. because you're a felon).
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Re: Random Politics 2

Postby Gormur » 2020-03-21, 23:24

Inherent rights is a term, I think. To me though it just seems like inherited rights. That's comprehensible to me, even if it hasn't got a logical basis
Eigi gegnir þat at segja at bók nøkkur er hreinferðug eðr ønnur spelluð því at vandliga ok dáliga eru bœkr ritnar ok annat kunnum vér eigi um þœr at dœma


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