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At least, that's the impression I got by watching mainstream news.
The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.
meidei wrote:And mustering as much good faith as I can tonight, I advice you to look for counter-information outlets in your area, like 'newspapers of the road', zines, go to protests and ask those people why the hell are they protesting (trust me this is how we measure the success of a protest: how many by-standards were interested to find out what's going on and approached us to discuss it.).
Marah wrote:Why should it it ever be pardoned?
loqu wrote:I'd like to congratulate you for building your own big sturdy strawman, since I (and lots of other people, but you were quoting and addressing me) have always opposed those policies, as meidei pointed out.
Yasna wrote:linguoboy wrote:200,000 people in a population of half a billion honestly sounds like nothing to me. That's less than one twenty-fifth of the number of natural births in the EU each year, and y'all have no trouble dealing with those.
But keep in mind that immigrants tend to live in clusters. It is likely that some neighborhoods will be transformed by this immigration wave. And the people already living there won't have much of a say about it.
It's just that during family meals we watch mainstream news on TV
I was just expressing my opinion on the different ways the media is protraying Hungary in comporason with the way it's portraying other countries over the same issue.
meidei wrote:Greeks of Minor Asia were thrown in ghettos in Greece after 1923, and so where Greek Cypriots displaced from north to south Cyprus in 1974 (like my family was).
Car wrote:There aren't 200,000 refugees only. Germany alone had more than that last year, last month, we had 100,000. The past weekend, we had 20,000, for this, 40,000 are expected. I think there were 10,000 on Monday. I'm not sure if there's any data on the rest of the days; there are so many that many aren't even registered. Originally, 450,000 were expected for this year (IIRC), they updated that to 800,000 and with the recent influx, even that number is too low. Again, that's all for Germany alone. The numbers skyrocketed and people are coming from more and more countries, often enough with fake Syrian passports nowadays.
Varislintu wrote:I guess you mean althogether, not just from Syria? Because then, yeah, there are a lot more. I was talking about Syrians specifically with the 200 000. I based it on the estimate on this page, but seems that that was old info as well since this page counts the asylum-seekers from Syria in Europe since 2011 at 350 000 so far.
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