What class are you?

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What class are you?

Über-rich
0
No votes
Rich
0
No votes
Upper Class
1
2%
Upper Middle Class
8
19%
Middle Class
14
33%
Lower Middle Class
5
12%
Upper Lower Class
2
5%
Working Class
8
19%
Working Poor
2
5%
Underclass
3
7%
 
Total votes: 43

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Re: What class are you?

Postby mōdgethanc » 2015-01-06, 14:47

Marah wrote:I don't know how widespread these stereotypes are in North America in the first place, but I don't think they exist here.
Very. Maybe it's just because I read medical blogs for fun, but I'd be surprised if you'd never seen an irate patient ranting about how goddamn doctors are all corporate-sponsored pill pushers who DON'T F%$#ING LISTEN!!!!!1

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Re: What class are you?

Postby TeneReef » 2015-01-06, 17:09

I think I'm underclass.
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Re: What class are you?

Postby loqu » 2015-01-14, 15:46

mōdgethanc wrote:I'd be surprised if you'd never seen an irate patient ranting about how goddamn doctors are all corporate-sponsored pill pushers who DON'T F%$#ING LISTEN!!!!!1

I had some doctors who were actually like that. Not corporate-sponsored since they are paid by the government, so they are encouraged not to prescribe anything if it can be avoided (that's the stereotype here). But these doctors I talk about didn't listen at all.

Some years ago I visited the one I had assigned because my whole body itched, he didn't even look at me and prescribed some cortisone cream. Luckily I didn't use it, because a week later I discovered I had lice.

Years later, with a different doctor, I spent months with a painful yeast infection that went undiscovered because the doctor wouldn't even look at my body. It was after I asked for a doctor reassignment that the new doctor found out what happened.

End of the irate patient rant. :lol:
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Re: What class are you?

Postby Levo » 2015-01-19, 11:07

It's a very interesting topic and it is very hard to tell.

Both the Human Development Index measures, and another report that now I cannot quote as I don't remember its name, show that the lowest income pentile in the US has a more or less equivalent Human Deveopment Index as the middle (or third) pentile in Hungary. Including the access to food, money, education, healthcare, sanitation, free-time, etc...

So I don't know how to compare our standards and that in the US.

Also, I read that the definition of "middle-class" today is that the individual or household members will have 1/3 of their monthly income remained after paying for housing and basic food.

Well, I earn way above the average in Hungary, live alone and I don't have 1/3 of my income left after housing and paying for food. :) At the same time my job needs BSC degree, at least two foreign languages fluently, and the salary is much above average within the country.

So it is hard to judge. It would be good to know the categories better.

As far as what I saw in Germany, Sweden, UK,

My lifestyle and fiscal possibilities might be: lower-middle class. Although my education is better than that and my interests as well as my job, are very different from that of the working-class or lower-middle class of Western Europe. That would rather be middle-class.

Within Hungary I am at least middle-class.

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Re: What class are you?

Postby loqu » 2015-01-19, 11:27

What are the interests of the working class, then?
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Re: What class are you?

Postby Meera » 2015-02-10, 7:39

I think I am working class.
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Re: What class are you?

Postby Vertigo » 2015-07-06, 5:27

linguoboy wrote:
Saim wrote:"Upper-class" is a different thing to "rich"?

As I said, it depends on the social structure of your civilisation. Since the USA never had a landed aristocracy (except--arguably--in the antebellum South), the two categories are essentially one and the same. We don't really talk about the "upper class" here, though, only about the "wealthy" or the "1%".


In the UK two individuals can have the same income but be considered to be from different classes, based on abstract personal information and the value attached to it (whether/where you went to University, what your first name is, which books you read, where you go on holiday, your consumption habits etc). In other words, income has to go hand in hand with social capital or it might not make much difference (for example, a teacher is going to be seen as more 'middle class' than a plumber, even if they're earning the same wage).

I'm from a very working class background, and more or less self-identify as working class, but I already feel like there's some distance between me and some people from my home town because I've been privileged enough to go to university.

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Re: What class are you?

Postby basica » 2015-07-06, 23:10

If you look at the median wage of full time workers (in Australia), I am right smack in the middle - I could hardly be anymore middle class than I am now. If you look at the median wage of all workers (full time and part time), then I am a bit more comfortably middle class, but far from upper middle to upper class by any stretch. Considering I was in the bottom rung for most of my life, it's quite nice now to be in the middle.
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