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Prowler wrote:Why would I talk to random tourists and immigrants out of the blue?
Luís wrote:Also, most Blacks and South Asians don't actually count as foreigners, since they have Portuguese nationality. Plus, there's the Roma, which are also well represented in some sections of the city
vijayjohn wrote:I thought Prowler wasn't from Lisbon, though, so I'm afraid I don't see what that has to do with anything.Prowler wrote:Why would I talk to random tourists and immigrants out of the blue?
I never said anything about either "random" or "out of the blue." In a place where you see foreigners every day, it's not impossible that you will also have to interact with some of them on some level at a university or other educational institution (if you're studying at one) or at work (if you have a job). So I'm asking whether you do.
Again, my point is: If you don't interact with people in the first place, they're probably not going to care who you are. Even if they did, you wouldn't know anyway! Right? So of course no one will tell you that you look just like your brother or anything.Luís wrote:Also, most Blacks and South Asians don't actually count as foreigners, since they have Portuguese nationality. Plus, there's the Roma, which are also well represented in some sections of the city
Okay, in light of this information (which is new to me because I'm not Portuguese and am no authority on how Portuguese people think), I'll additionally ask Prowler how often he interacts with Blacks, South Asians, or Roma.
vijayjohn wrote:Okay, I'm going to try putting my question bluntly: Why would anyone give a fuck who you were if you don't interact with them???
That being said, FWIW, I don't recall people of other races ever taking me for someone else. Has this ever happened to anyone here?
Dinesh D'Souza is an embarrassment in general. He's like an "American conservative blowhard" starter pack: Ivy League, persecution complex, Christian apologist, antifeminism, Obama conspiracism, Godwin's Law, sexual indiscretions and criminal record which are conveniently ignored by his fanbase.vijayjohn wrote:Dinesh D'Souza is such an embarrassment to me as an Indian American. I remember my dad telling me that a black taxi driver once asked my uncle, "Why don't Indians think they're black?" and my dad pointed out that it's a good question (especially because a lot of Indians think they're white). But apparently, some of us think it's totally okay to treat black people like this.
vijayjohn wrote:Dinesh D'Souza is such an embarrassment to me as an Indian American. I remember my dad telling me that a black taxi driver once asked my uncle, "Why don't Indians think they're black?" and my dad pointed out that it's a good question (especially because a lot of Indians think they're white). But apparently, some of us think it's totally okay to treat black people like this.
Prowler wrote:It sucks and I wish it wasn't that way, but sometimes racist thoughts just pop in people's heads and I'm not above that. Does anyone go through this issue at times?
I try to be understanding and all, but when I read or watch stuff about let's say China or India their societies just seem rather messed up, especially casteism in India. And that kinda makes racist thoughts rise to my head. I also think Japanese people, as awesome as their stuff is, they seem kinda crazy lol
What? Why would Indians think they're "black" or "white"? Am I missing something here?
vijayjohn wrote:Of course. We all go through that issue sometimes (yes, including non-white people like myself).
vijayjohn wrote:That's a pretty big problem for actual Roma in Europe, though (and probably for some other minorities). And yes, there are cultural preferences for white skin in East Asia as well, although my understanding is that this is in addition to various other things and in South Korea in particular, not fitting all the ideals of beauty is enough of an issue to be considered grounds for suicide, so facial surgery and such is extremely popular despite its riskiness. In India, white skin is a big deal in and of itself to the point where it seems nothing else matters. If you're white, you can't possibly be ugly; if you're black, you can't possibly be beautiful. (But of course, since Indian society is also highly patriarchal/male-dominated, to a large extent, you can afford to be "ugly" if you're a man).
Prowler wrote:I think surgery in China and Japan is also more common than one thinks but not as common as in Korea and probably less blatant.
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